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This is why I’m not touching Scott Pilgrim

I’m not all that much of a nerd. I’m certainly no gaming nerd. I don’t own a console more advanced than a Sega Megadrive. The last computer game I bought was Sims 3. My comic book collection consists of ‘How the Grinch Stole Christmas’. So forgive me for not hearing about Scott Pilgrim in anyway shape or form before the hype surrounding the movie. I don’t hang around in nerdy enough circles for anyone to recommend me the comics. But neither did I have any sort of bias against it. Despite what the title of this post might lead you to believe, I was actually fairly interested in the movie and perhaps, if the mood grabbed me to do so, I would check out the comics as well. That was until I saw the artwork.

Let me tell you a little story. Once upon a time, not that long ago, I was a newbie to anime fandom. I had seen about 10-15 series, most of which were in my predominately fruitless search for the next great seinen romance. I was not particularly internet savvy, having never before searched the internet for anything other than social networking sites. But despite this, I worked up the courage to post on an anime forum. I’d read all the forum rules so I wouldn’t go making some newbie mistake, despite not having a clue whether I was flaming or trolling or not because I had no idea what either of those words actually meant. But still, I posted a question, something about how many anime did I have to watch  before I could reasonably call myself a knowledgeable anime fan.

In a proceeding forum exchange, there was one guy who decided it was his rightful place to make as much fun out of this newbie as possible. He was about as condescending as one could be, totally turning me off the site from there on and leaving me feeling a lot more hurt than any future encounter over the internet ever left me (this coming from a guy who ran that shitstorm known as the Aniblog Tourney so I’ve had my fair share of abuse hurled my way). But this guy’s tirade hit me more than anything else. It wasn’t as though he had anything useful to say either. He just wanted to be the big internet bully and show off to his forum buddies.

This incident all came rushing back to me thanks to Scott Pilgram. Why? Because this cunt had a Scott Pilgrim forum avatar. I never knew this when the original exchange happened. I only recognised this when I saw Scott Pilgram artwork. It was that guy there in the picture, with the ears and tail and everything. The fucker.

I’m writing this and thinking to myself ‘cry moar’, which is part of the reason I felt like writing this. Infected by internet culture, I’ve become used to dismissing what idiotic newbies write about anime, not knowing much better. Eventually though, they’ll grow up into regular forum posters, imageboard visiters and commenters and know as much about anime as that person who dismissed them all those years ago. They don’t know any better and probably know they don’t know any better. But all you’re achieving by doing this is turning people off what you love so much. You’re influencing a new generation to not want to watch your favourite stuff. This is also the main reason people don’t want to watch older anime. You’re turning them off by being condescending pricks.

Be nice to newbies. This is such a basic lesson it’s hardly like it applies to anime at all. I don’t want to turn people off Arakawa Under the Bridge simply because I was a dick to them. Seasoned veterans can handle it. Thick skin develops if you use the internet long enough. But don’t be condescending because they’ll harbour that loathing when they become seasoned veterans.  Heck, look at me. 3 years on and here I am, a bountiful casket of knowledge and wisdom pertaining to all Japanese Animation and related products, loved and adored by millions. Fuck you random forum guy. You probably got the burnout anyway.

And I never intend on watching Scott Pilgrim.

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  1. Posted September 8, 2010 at 10:02 am | Permalink

    For what it’s worth, I read the first volume of the comic and hated it, never wanted to touch the series again. And I loved the movie! So… never say never?

    • Scamp
      Posted September 8, 2010 at 12:53 pm | Permalink

      Well I might go if friends drag me along, but none of my friends are nerdy in any way shape or form so that’s unlikely

  2. Posted September 8, 2010 at 10:27 am | Permalink

    I never heard of Scott Pilgrim until the “hype” surrounding the movie and I’m not all that interested by the comics. However, the video game is a fairly fun beat-em-up.

    I’ve never found forums the best place to jump into green, especially anime ones. It’s a bit like a t-shirt someone showed me today with an internet theory one it that went something like “arrogant idiot + anonymity + audience = total dickhead.” Not always true, but close enough. Good to see that you persevered though!

    Despite that experience, 3 years is quite a quick bounce back. It took me 10 years of lurking before blogging!

    • Scamp
      Posted September 8, 2010 at 12:54 pm | Permalink

      3 years bounceback? Nope, remember that’s three years from today-ish. In fact, I started blogging about 9 months after than incident. It sure turned me off forums though

      • Posted September 8, 2010 at 5:37 pm | Permalink

        Oops, sorry. That’s even better though! Yeah, I’ve found the blogging scene to be better than the forums for the most part. More discussion, less blathering.

  3. karry
    Posted September 8, 2010 at 10:33 am | Permalink

    I’ve read the wiki synopsis of the comic…sounds kinda like Friends, everybody is fucking everbody, “i love her but will casually fuck you right now”…ugh, there’s enough of this kind of shit in USian media already. And this shtic about fighting ex-boyfriends ? Meh, seen more original ideas.

    • Scamp
      Posted September 8, 2010 at 12:58 pm | Permalink

      It’s rather amusing reading your comments with that new pic =)

    • K' hike
      Posted September 12, 2010 at 1:52 am | Permalink

      You must be kidding, “every body is fuck ing ever body” thats the greatest nosence i ever read, please get better information before writing that bulsht.
      The comic its great, it has romance, action, and its very easy to read.

  4. Posted September 8, 2010 at 10:43 am | Permalink

    There should be a cynicism requirement before being able to log onto the internet. If your Cynicism isn’t Level 5, you cannot equip the World Wide Web. It’d make those early net days so much easier for the newbies.

    If you ever get around to Scott Pilgrim, I think you might dig it. It’s kinda like if His and Her Circumstances or something like that was turned into a shounen fighting anime. It has all that seinin romance stuff, but with death.

    • Scamp
      Posted September 8, 2010 at 12:59 pm | Permalink

      Thing is, you can’t gain that cynicism without going on the internet in the first place. Catch 22

  5. Xyopq
    Posted September 8, 2010 at 2:17 pm | Permalink

    Well if it helps, there are no raccoon ears in the movie.

    • Scamp
      Posted September 9, 2010 at 10:38 am | Permalink

      Doesn’t really help….

  6. Samshel
    Posted September 8, 2010 at 6:05 pm | Permalink

    At least you have the option to watch it on cinema, it will be here like in 6 months, if it ever make it to the theaters. Never read the comics, but I liked how it looked in the trailer.

    Sad it brings bad memories to you.

    • Scamp
      Posted September 9, 2010 at 10:43 am | Permalink

      urgh, that’s one of the problems with globalisation. You get hype from one side of the globe that will never reach your side

  7. Posted September 8, 2010 at 9:30 pm | Permalink

    So yeah, I knew this guy named Scamp on the internet. I was sitting here all jiving with my homies talkin’ about how awesome Gunbuster was when he walks over and says I is completely whacked in the head for liking that show and back when he did that he was wearing a Hare+Guu avatar and now I can’t dig Hare+Guu no more. =(

    What a jerk!


    • Scamp
      Posted September 9, 2010 at 10:44 am | Permalink

      Man up, you can handle it. You’ve been bumbling about on the blogsphere longer than I have.

      Now if I was going to let rip into a newbie for liking Gunbuster for liking Gunbuster then it would be a different matter. But it was his own fault for liking Gunbuster in the first place!

  8. Posted September 9, 2010 at 1:01 am | Permalink

    I took a “can’t beat ’em, join ’em” attitude to internet trolls (…or “flamers”, as they called themselves back then… hmm…) in my early days of finding out about forums and all that jazz. Flamin’ noobies. It’s OK.

    Maybe I’m looking in the wrong places, but it seems it isn’t done as much anymore. In the old days, it used to be about hazing the new guys, to find out if they fit in. Now it’s more about accepting newbies to help the community grow. Considering that the life of a forum generally depends on how well it can accept new posters to replace the old ones who eventually stop posting, maybe people have realized that if you want a community to last for a long time, you gotta treat your newbies fairly well.

    Oh yeah, eat a bowl of concrete *immature comment* *angry gargling noises*!

    • Scamp
      Posted September 9, 2010 at 10:57 am | Permalink

      I’m pretty sure the original attitude came from the people who first set up these discussion places and were therefore reluctant to let in newer people, phasing them out by calling them n00bs and so on. The next generation that came along were those who had to go through that and are therefore more accepting because they know what it’s like to be the newbie.

      Just a theory, but it does have its merits

  9. Poro
    Posted September 9, 2010 at 3:47 am | Permalink

    I saw a guy use a scott pilgrim poster be used as tissue paper in a movie theater while going to see the expendables. Don’t worry about it.

    • Scamp
      Posted September 9, 2010 at 10:57 am | Permalink

      So long as he wasn’t using it for jerking off to Stallone

  10. Posted September 9, 2010 at 7:45 am | Permalink

    i guess im not nerdy enough since i haven’t heard a thing about it either ;( or maybe im so nerdily absorbed in my own things that i don’t even see other nerdy things? ah well~ i think i saw the trailer once and dismissed it; not my thing at all.

    screw internet trolls. actually, i derive a lot of pleasure now trolling those type of trolls. it probably makes me one of them and no better, but what can i say, its fun XD

    • Scamp
      Posted September 9, 2010 at 10:58 am | Permalink

      Trolling the trolls. That makes you a cannibal troll

  11. f0calizer
    Posted September 10, 2010 at 5:29 am | Permalink

    I watched the Scott Pilgrim movie and thought it was fun, but I’m not a big enough of a fan or nerd to want to start reading the comics. It’s always fun to see what Michael Cera is up to, though.

    Sorry to hear you had such a bad initial experience on an anime forum. The Internet often brings out the worst in people — as I sometimes tell my students when I’m a bit grumpy, we now live in a world full of iPhones, iPads, and iDiots.

  12. Posted September 12, 2010 at 3:46 pm | Permalink

    Don’t worry, Scott Pilgram is overrated, though I’ll see the movie because I think Cera is hot.

    And sorry about that. Sometimes people on the internet really suck. I just don’t care what people say anymore. >.<

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