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The difference in love between Chobits and Time of Eve

Both Chob­its and Time of Eve deal with humans’ rela­tion­ships with robots. In fact, they both go fur­ther than that. They focus, in some or another, on love. In both instances they say that a human can love a robot. Hideki is, com­pletely and utterly, without any sign or hint of creep­i­ness, in love with Chi. Time of Even prefers to focus on sev­eral short stor­ies to high­light the rela­tion­ship and love each duo shares. How­ever there’s a dif­fer­ence in their messages.

Take the robots inside Time of Eve. The first epis­ode makes a big deal out of the fact that the girl is bub­bly and hyper­act­ive inside the cafe, but when they see her in school she’s life­less. In the cafe, the sign spe­cific­ally says there is to be no dis­crim­in­a­tion between humans and robots. The robots all act like humans, get­ting rid of the halo above their head and in doing so remov­ing their status as a robot. The final scene in epis­ode 5 sees Sammy, the robot belong­ing to the main char­ac­ter, leav­ing the cafe and return­ing to her life­less robot form, only to briefly smile, show­ing her ‘human’ side.

The robots in Chob­its are always robots. There is never any doubt that Chi is any­thing more than a robot. A more advanced robot with the pro­gramme mak­ing her cap­able to fall in love yes, but still always a robot. They are never once human­ised over the course of the series. If they were ever to say some­thing that soun­ded remotely human, it was often fol­lowed up with a reminded that this was the way they were pro­grammed. The robots never lose their ears, the sign that they aren’t humans, unlike the dis­ap­pear­ance of the halos in Time of Eve (although in the Chob­its manga they do start pro­du­cing per­se­coms without the ears, but I’m talk­ing about the anime so let’s leave that aside).

There’s only one instance in Time of Eve where it’s never a doubt that someone is a robot in the Eve Cafe (well, epis­ode 6 was kinda like that but didn’t fol­low the same format of the other epis­odes so it’s hard to fit it into the pat­tern). Epis­ode 4 with ‘name­less’, the clunky, near broken-down child­minder intent on drink­ing that cup of tea. Never once were you left guess­ing as to whether this per­son was a robot or not, but the lov­ing the robot as a robot was the main mes­sage of the epis­ode. Incid­ent­ally, this was also by far the best epis­ode of Time of Eve.

Both Time of Eve and Chob­its say humans can love robots the same way they love other humans. Time of Eve says humans can love a robot as if they were a human. Chob­its says a human can love a robot as a robot. I’m not say­ing that the mes­sage is cor­rect or any­thing. It’s just a huge leap of faith to make you believe you can actu­ally love a robot. But Chob­its goes fur­ther than that. It says that a human can fall in love romantic­ally with a robot. Whatever about a robot lov­ing you. With the right pro­gram­ming that’s believ­able and I can eas­ily make that leap of faith. But for a human to prop­erly fall in love with a robot, without being under the delu­sion that it’s any­thing other than a robot, while also being in an entirely non-creepy way, is a huge men­tal bound­ary to cross.

That’s why I love Chob­its. It made me believe. It made me believe in a love that, before I began the series, seemed so implaus­ible. Because I’m a bit romantic sap at heart.

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26 Comments

  1. Hogart
    Posted June 28, 2010 at 7:53 pm | Permalink

    Nice ana­lysis.. I had sim­ilar thoughts after watch­ing Time of Eve as well.

    To me, Chob­its was really more an explor­a­tion of how human rela­tion­ships would be affected by robots; what would it take for a per­son to “fall in love” with a robot, and would such a love be the same thing?

    Time of Eve focused more on whether we can dis­tin­guish sufficiently-advanced robots from people, and whether a clear line is neces­sary for them to even “feel” human.

    Both do over­lap in themes of love, but Chob­its wasn’t as obsessed with the “robot” part of the equa­tion.. it was far more intent on the ques­tion “what is romantic love, really?”.

    • Scamp
      Posted June 29, 2010 at 7:22 pm | Permalink

      Indeed, that’s a good way of put­ting it. Chob­its is about humans love for Robots while Time of Eve is about robots love for humans. It’s just robots lov­ing has been done before and doesn’t take a lot of con­vin­cing to com­mit to the idea. A human lov­ing a robot is a big­ger leap in logic

  2. Posted June 28, 2010 at 7:54 pm | Permalink

    Maybe I should watch Chob­its. I’ve been hold­ing this anime for a long time and should given it a chance. It looks pretty good of an anime. Lov­ing robots.

    Hope I get a chance to watch it. In ur opin­ion, should i watch the sub or the dub?

    • Scamp
      Posted June 29, 2010 at 7:23 pm | Permalink

      I watched the dub and liked it but they’re pretty much equal. Depends on your per­sonal preferences

  3. Hogart
    Posted June 28, 2010 at 8:12 pm | Permalink

    @Hinochi: read the manga. The anime is pretty weak in comparison.

    • Scamp
      Posted June 29, 2010 at 7:23 pm | Permalink

      I think I’m the only per­son who prefers the anime

  4. Taka
    Posted June 28, 2010 at 8:41 pm | Permalink

    I think another thing that is dif­fer­ent in the 2 series is the por­trayal of the duties of the robots. Chi for the most part was com­pletely use­less in terms of the util­ity she was meant for as a per­so­com. In Time of Eve the robots were mostly sub­ser­vi­ent to their human cre­at­ors. Time of Eve goes bey­ond the exper­i­ence of “love” as it’s por­trayed in chob­its and goes into things like stretch­ing that servant-master rela­tion­ship. The robots can not only per­form their duties but they can care about the people they are work­ing for. If Time of Eve is to be believed, when a robot leaves the cafe and returns to being a robot ser­vant they are fully aware of their exper­i­ences. So they must be the ser­vant of the humans will­ingly. Which says a lot about the robots abil­ity to “love” on more than just a romantic level.

    • Scamp
      Posted June 29, 2010 at 7:25 pm | Permalink

      Thing is, Chi wasn’t made for any other pur­pose other than to love. That’s what a Chob­its is. By adding that into the equa­tion, they instantly bypass the theme of Time of Eve by simply say­ing ‘yes, the robot is pro­grammed to love’. That’s why it spends the rest of the time focus­ing on whether a human can love a robot

      • Taka
        Posted June 29, 2010 at 9:36 pm | Permalink

        Is that in the manga? I’ve only seen the anime but I thought Chi was spe­cial in her abil­ity to love. I was of the impres­sion the per­so­coms were just like any other android except the chob­its model had free will, emo­tions, and human-like intel­li­gence. Which in my mind doesn’t neces­sary mean built to love.

        What I meant is that ToE addresses bey­ond eros or passionate/romantic love (which I felt Chob­its mainly focused on) and explores agape; that is love without con­di­tions. Which is explored in ToE in sev­eral almost every epis­ode; most not­ably with Shimei/Chie and Koji/Rina, but also with “name­less” in a more subtle way.

  5. Samshel
    Posted June 28, 2010 at 9:07 pm | Permalink

    Mmmm I remem­ber watch­ing a trailer of Time of Eve long ago, for­got about it, def­in­itely giv­ing it a try, there are only 6 epis­odes any­way. About Chob­its, it was good, not GOOD, but I enjoyed it overall.

    • Scamp
      Posted June 29, 2010 at 7:27 pm | Permalink

      Time of Eve is great stuff. Stu­dio Rikka are a small stu­dio but they also made Pale Cocoon, which I think is bet­ter than Time of Eve, but they’re both worth watching.

      Chob­its has a spe­cial place in my heart. It’s the odd one out amongst my all-time favourites

  6. Posted June 28, 2010 at 10:20 pm | Permalink

    I think Time of Eve had big­ger fish to fry. The robot-nature was used in part as a meta­phor for any dif­fer­ence which can cause intol­er­ance. It could be viewed as a cri­ti­cism of racial intol­er­ance, for example. For example, LUH-3417 was human because he felt human, regard­less of what he looked like. And he was loved because the kid he looked after loved him.

    I think ToE also tackled the issue of “love” in a much broader sense than simply romantic love. For example the final story. Without giv­ing any­thing away, I think it shows a kind of love that isn’t romantic love at all (more like the love you have for a fam­ily member).

    • Scamp
      Posted June 29, 2010 at 7:30 pm | Permalink

      I don’t quite agree. Well, I agree with what Time of Eve’s themes and meta­phors are but I don’t agree that it’s big­ger fish fry­ing. Ask­ing whether Robots can love humans is not a huge leap in logic and has been done before. So has most of the other things done in Time of Eve. The main point of this post is to point out what a big leap of faith Chob­its makes you perform

  7. fable
    Posted June 28, 2010 at 10:41 pm | Permalink

    Man, I loved Time of Eve. It was an excel­lent series. I agree epis­ode four was prob­ably the best, but I also loved epis­ode six.

    I’ve never watched Chob­its, though. Maybe because I have some­what mixed feel­ings about anim­ated CLAMP series. Or maybe because it’s an ecchi series. I sup­pose I’ll have to give it a shot.

    • Scamp
      Posted June 29, 2010 at 7:34 pm | Permalink

      For some reason I didn’t like 6 that much, but the rest of the series I loved.

      Chob­its is…well, I guess it is ecchi, which is prob­ably why I watched it all those years ago. I love it (obvi­ously) but it clicked with me so I’m wary about rec­comend­ing it to any­one else. Most people like it but few people love it

  8. smallish
    Posted June 28, 2010 at 11:31 pm | Permalink

    I think that I’ll put both those anime on my to-watch list. :)

  9. Posted June 29, 2010 at 4:58 am | Permalink

    I used to have a rela­tion­ship with a robot. How­ever, I acci­dent­ally doused her in water and she stopped work­ing. I guess you could say I “broke her heart!!!” HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    • Hogart
      Posted June 29, 2010 at 5:23 am | Permalink

      Guess you could say that joke was as rusty as your ex (ba-da-bum-psh!)

    • Posted June 29, 2010 at 5:02 pm | Permalink

      I bet she was pos­it­ively electrifying.

    • Scamp
      Posted June 29, 2010 at 7:44 pm | Permalink

      I bet you had good sex with her

      …wait, is that not how you play this game?

  10. Elysium
    Posted June 29, 2010 at 9:53 am | Permalink

    Ah, I love Chob­its. :D That was one of my top ten favor­ite anime… for a while, at least.

    I’ve never watched Time of Eve, but it sounds inter­est­ing. Maybe I’ll watch it some time…

    • Scamp
      Posted June 29, 2010 at 7:46 pm | Permalink

      It’s one of my favour­ites but I rarely men­tion it because…well…it’s Chobits

  11. Posted June 29, 2010 at 5:06 pm | Permalink

    I have to agree with epis­ode 4 being the best epis­ode of ToE. The robot with the least amount of vis­ible human­ity dis­played the strongest char­ac­ter­ist­ics. The robots might have a fear of being scrapped, but it’s not even close to recog­niz­ing your own mortality.

    I admit it. I shed a few tears for the guy.

    • Scamp
      Posted June 29, 2010 at 7:48 pm | Permalink

      It’s one of the best epis­odes of anime I’ve ever seen. I think it stood far above the other epis­odes in Time of Eve, and it’s not like they were poor epis­odes themselves

  12. Poro
    Posted June 30, 2010 at 6:46 pm | Permalink

    I am sur­prised such a post came to be. I remem­ber watch­ing Eve no Jikan and lov­ing it. But I wasn’t an anib­log­ger yet, so I didn’t say any­thing about it. I think Eve no Jikan is bet­ter because it is
    1. less ecchi
    2. delves around all kinds of robot/human scen­arios in sur­pris­ing depth for a 6 epis­ode anime.
    3. bet­ter explains the stuff
    4. go go 3D anim­a­tion
    5. I really like the sym­bol­ism too.
    No won­der it won the Inter­na­tional Tokyo Anim­a­tion Award

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