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Steins;Gate episode 8

Shaft head tilt!

After refusing to use stupid unnecessary punctuation in anime titles for my season preview, I suppose I should really continue that trend with Steins Semicolon Gate episodics. What the hell is the semicolon for? Surely it’s a gate belonging to some fellow called Stein. Hence, unless I really suck at punctuation, it’s Stein’s Gate, right? I’ll just call it that from now on.

I’m bored of traps. They were amusing originally. Suddenly a character you thought was one gender would turn out not to be so, and you would laugh at your own shocked response and the similar responses of the characters. But now I’m just bored. I feel like everything that can be done with them, has been done. From the totally nonsensical side of the Hideyoshi, to the totally serious side of Wandering Son, to the perfect balance of the two in Moyashimon, it’s all been done. The jokes just aren’t funny anymore. Or, more like, the simple fact that they are a trap does not warrant laughter. Nor does such a half-hearted attempt to gain our sympathy with our residents traps desires for transgenderism work on me. I’ve seen it all before. I’ve seen it all done better before. There’s barely any effort put into Ruka’s character in Steins Semicolon Gate so it’s hard to care about him and the jokes are just “he’s a trap, laugh at this”. Considering a good third of the episode was made of Rukako doing his shtick, you can probably guess I wasn’t so fond of this episode.

What this episode did do well, though, was be a massive tease. Every single time Kyouma goes into one of his time-skip thread jumps, a little part of me starts to panic. What if he moves to a timeline where, due to some crazy set of circumstances, there is no Daru? Or Kurisu has died again? Or Mayushii moved away and we never see her again. Or if the silent girl stops existing all together? Well, maybe not so horrifying on that last one, but the idea that one of my favourite characters was going to disappear hung over every thread leap. Damnit Kyouma, you call yourself a scientist? Don’t you know what could happen? Your beautiful lab assistant could disappear if you’re not careful! Why are you messing about with the time travel so haphazardly! Argh, it was torture sitting through it, particularly that one time Kyouma came back into the real world and everyone surrounding the microwave had disappeared. For that one second, I thought everybody in the show had disappeared forever.

My mind is rather going blank for what to talk about on this episode though, so instead I’ll return back and try to make out what on earth happened in episode 1. Kyouma went to a conference about time travel where some old bloke nicked all his theories from John Titor. At least, I think it was John Titor. Then Kyouma went into another room and saw Kurisu looking rather dead. Now here is where my internal timeline gets messed up. After this, he goes outside and sees the satellite stuck in the top of the building, but I seem to remember there was a load of police surrounding the scene at the time, presumably for Kurisu’s death. But it strikes me that around this point is where Kyouma did his thread jump. Fast forward to later where he’s taking a video of himself, introducing the lab and talking to the llama on his TV, we’re now definitely in the new thread. He asked Daru about the conference and Daru told  him it was called off. The thread jump occurred somewhere between Kyouma seeing Kurisu’s death and him in the lab. The question has to be asked then: What the hell does that satellite have to do with anything? And why did Kyouma jump in the first place?

Wild theory: The satellite was a time-travelling satellite that they fixed the jellification for but not the co-ordinates and it got stuck in the roof of a building. Flimsy theory, but let’s see you lot do better.

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  1. Posted May 27, 2011 at 4:00 pm | Permalink

    “Wild the­ory: The satel­lite was a time-travelling satel­lite that they fixed the jel­li­fic­a­tion for but not the co-ordinates and it got stuck in the roof of a build­ing. Flimsy the­ory, but let’s see you lot do better.”

    So you’re saying it has fixed coordinates, so it can’t change it’s position during time travel? So, therefore, it is on the rooftop because the coordinates coincided with the position of the roof.

    It would explain why the satellite didn’t fall from the sky. If it had, the satellite would probably be a molten lump of metal from atmospheric reentry, and even if it survived reentry, it would have demolished that building.

    Meh, speculation is speculation ヽ(´ー`)┌

  2. Rintaro
    Posted May 27, 2011 at 4:03 pm | Permalink

    Daru has already stated that “around the time the satelight crashed” the microwave (or his computer) emitted some weird electricity. Also, you can clearly see that the person who came out of the satelight in ep 1 is Suzuha. So, it’s obvious the Satelight is what makes time travel possible.

    • mcm38
      Posted May 27, 2011 at 4:14 pm | Permalink

      Wait someone came out of the satellite? Why didn’t I notice it?

    • LyricDawnhagen
      Posted May 27, 2011 at 4:16 pm | Permalink

      I am still iffy about that satellite. I had to go back and watch the start of episode 1 a couple of times to try and figure out what Kyouma saw on the roof. I think that the sound he heard was the satellite being set down on the roof by a crane or helicopter (black stealth helicopter of course). There is a guy that walks into the scene giving hand signals. So the whole satellite crash was staged by someone. The video quality of the copy I watch is so bad that I could not make out the logo on the guys hat. They camera seemed to focus on it a second so i am sure I missed a really important plot point.

  3. LyricDawnhagen
    Posted May 27, 2011 at 4:15 pm | Permalink

    I have to agree with you on that heart stopping moment when they send back that message so far into the past. I thought for a moment that he had wiped everyone out and we would watch the next two episodes as he tried to figure out how to switch everything back or has to track all the lab members down again and convince them to join him.

    The Butterfly Effect can be a harsh mistress.

    • mcm38
      Posted May 27, 2011 at 4:21 pm | Permalink

      Yh, that film was also cool. Those timeleaps make it realy exciting.

  4. mcm38
    Posted May 27, 2011 at 4:19 pm | Permalink

    The timeleap between the labintro and Christiiina’s dead is the moment Huououin suddenly stops and starts feeling something strange.

    Could have been a failed satellite launch. The satellite’s rocketdriver suddenly stopped and the satellite itself fell down. Could explain the reentry ignore, but I am searching to far. =.=

    And I’m a bit confused now. Ruka is still a boy right? Who was the one who previously said it was going to be revealed Ruka was actually a girl? Doom you, getting me all confused!

    • Najica
      Posted May 27, 2011 at 4:32 pm | Permalink

      Well, Mayushi did call her/him/it “Ruka-chan” instead of “Ruka-kun” which would be hinting on that yes, Ruka actually turned into a girl. BUT, it could also be that Ruka was still born a girl, but wants to be more into a girl than he was before, hence asking mayushi to add -chan instead of -kun in order to make people believe it even more~!

      I’m sure Steins;Gate is just trying to screw around with us.

      • Najica
        Posted May 27, 2011 at 4:33 pm | Permalink

        *guy du’h

        As for a theory… I don’t have one. But I kind of like Scamps theory so I so I’ll go for that one until a better one appears :P

      • mcm38
        Posted May 27, 2011 at 5:19 pm | Permalink

        Isn’t that temporarily calling off your betrayal to Scamp? -.-

      • Posted May 27, 2011 at 6:01 pm | Permalink

        ***SPOILER WARNING***

        Show ▼

    • mcm38
      Posted May 27, 2011 at 5:18 pm | Permalink

      K, I’m rewatching it right now. I’ll try to make a short summary of the important events. Yet this is going to be long. If it’s a hassle to read, just make some time and rewatch the episode.

      -He goes to the building for Dr. Nakabachi’s conference. A loud explotion-like sound attracts him to upstairs. On the rooftop he sees the timemachine and someone comes from it and makes an X signal with his hands
      -He goes to Dr. Nakabachi’s conference.
      -Reads the manual and figures it’s a copy of JT’s theory. Gets mad stands up and rages at the Doc N.
      -They start arguing, then suddenly Christiiina~ shows up. Takes him outside the conference room. They talk and Christiiina~ says he came up to her 15 minutes ago and tried to tell her something with a very worried look. She asks what it was. Huouoin who doesn’t know what she’s talking about ignores her question and leaves fastly.
      -When he is out of sight he starts thinking to himself about what all that was. But his cellphone buzzes and he opens it, but there’s only antfilm visible on the screen. (Very suspicious)
      -Than mayuri shows up claiming she couldnt find her Metal Oompa ON WHICH SHE WROTE HER NAME (might be important later on), they chat and someone starts screaming soon after interrupting their talk. I listened to this screamin a few times. I’m sure of it it was Huouoins voice, screamin in pain.
      -Huouoin tells Mayuri to go outside the building, he then goes to the place of the sound. Finds Christiiina~ dead. He runs outside in panick and shock.
      -Outside when he’s talking to Mayuri out of breath you can hear firetrucks coming.
      -He than mails Daru, that sb stabbed Makuse Kurisu. There when he is about to press the send button his eyelids open widely, you can see him slightly panicking. He presses and obviously the timeleap happens.
      -He looks around on the pedestrian passage and nobody is to been seen anywhere around in the streets of the city. Yet it was crowded and he was with Mayuri a few secs ago. He runs around in panick trough the streets.
      -He comes across Mayuri, asks why all the people around suddenly disappeared. Mayuri is clueless. He keeps asking still in shock. Turns around notices little rocks of bedrock falling from above. He looks up sees the satellite in the top of the building.
      -The labintro suddenly starts here.
      -They chat, Daru opens the news.
      -The news is about the satellite.
      -Huouoin thinks back on all the events. He remembers Mayuri telling him he saw the satellite crashed on TV and said:’So the Agency has finally made its move.’ She also says they than went together to see the satellite.
      -He than asks ‘Canceled?’, Daru answers: ‘You were all angry about how the professor got cold feet and ran away.’
      -Huouoin tells he was there at the lecture at 12 pm (the satellite also ‘crased’ at 12 pm according to the news) and the professor did show up. Daru reconfirms that the prof didnt show up and says its a good thing otherwise Huouoin would be cushioned in the incident.
      -Nothing happens for a while.
      -Huououin ans Mayuri are in the park. They chitchat, and Mayuri looks up to the sky. You can see Huouoin remembering Mayuri looking up the same way as she does that moment in a graveyard trough his vision.
      -Last part: Daru and Huouoin go to another lecture. They enter the elevator and Huouoin forcefully seizes Daru’s phone to check wether his message about Kurisu being stabbed did arrive.
      -He finds out that message arrived one week ago in 3 parts.
      -He checks his own phone for the mail records. But can’t find the message he sent.
      -Elevator door opens, The Zombie is there. (Christiiina~!)

  5. romulus
    Posted May 27, 2011 at 5:10 pm | Permalink

    tutturu MINDFUCK
    derp
    I’m so fed up with that. I hope she dies soon.

    • Posted May 27, 2011 at 6:00 pm | Permalink

      ***SPOILER WARNING***

      Show ▼

      • Shinigami
        Posted May 27, 2011 at 6:05 pm | Permalink

        I hope that wasn’t a spoiler >.<

      • romulus
        Posted May 27, 2011 at 9:33 pm | Permalink

        Yeah thats a spoiler but still, thank you.
        That tutturu is the only eyesore this show had, even with that it’s a clear 5/5 for me but the fact that it will be solved in such a glorious way makes me happy. The other show you mentioned was the best last season, and this is going to be the best this season. And it will go on the whole summer season, too *.*
        I can’t wait *.* Thanks again!

  6. Shinigami
    Posted May 27, 2011 at 5:26 pm | Permalink

    aww c’mon..you gotta love that totally-in-sync-double-tutturu from this episode :D
    also I’m noticing I’m not watching anime seriously enough..so many here mentioned facts and occurences that completely slipped my perception

    • mcm38
      Posted May 27, 2011 at 5:33 pm | Permalink

      Nah, I just like playing the detective.

    • romulus
      Posted May 27, 2011 at 9:41 pm | Permalink

      That one will haunt my dreams until I die
      TT.TT

  7. Anonymous
    Posted May 27, 2011 at 6:26 pm | Permalink

    About the semi-colon, you have to think like a mad scientist.

    Obviously Steins; gate means that the gate belongs to Stein but also that the gate does not belong to Stein. Like Schrodinger’s cat, you cannot say if the gate belongs to Stein until you say the gate belongs to Stein, hence the semi-colon.

    The same applies to reading steiner, as in “Steiner is reading” or “Steiner is being read”. Perfectly logical to a mad scientist

  8. Posted May 27, 2011 at 7:56 pm | Permalink

    ‘Stein’ means stone in German. The plural is ‘Steine’, but it was said Okarin is bad with grammar… So I suppose, he meant ‘stones; gate’. And it really fits his image to cross German with English and add semicolon just to make it looking cool:P

    • Shinigami
      Posted May 27, 2011 at 8:11 pm | Permalink

      but the german genetiv of stein is steins..so it still makes sense =)

      • mcm38
        Posted May 27, 2011 at 8:37 pm | Permalink

        I realy doubt this theory. The stein is prob some crazy mad scientistos name.

      • Shinigami
        Posted May 27, 2011 at 8:56 pm | Permalink

        i noticed that the japanese are generally obsessed with german words…so this one is not really surprising

      • mcm38
        Posted May 27, 2011 at 9:07 pm | Permalink

        They’re also obsessed with French. But I highly doubt this one is just a german word. It has to be a crazy *German mad scientistos name. Forgot to add the ‘German’ in the previous post.

      • Posted May 27, 2011 at 9:16 pm | Permalink

        In meaning: ‘the gate of the stone’?
        It could be also ‘the stone gate’ (made of stones), where the proper word would be ‘steinern’

        Probably, we would never know the answer;P

        About obsession, I noticed it too. Almost every magician uses German words as spells (and usually they are really stupid ^^)

        And I was rather surprised, no one has pointed it out before. The word ‘stein’ just look like German ;)

      • mcm38
        Posted May 27, 2011 at 9:32 pm | Permalink

        No no…. What I meant was a german scientist who probably found out the theory behind that certain ‘gate’. So he’s calling it Steins gate.
        Which became the theory: Steins; Gate. Maybe the semicolon because it’s not a proven theory.

      • romulus
        Posted May 27, 2011 at 9:57 pm | Permalink

        It could be the Genitiv form of Stein, or it could be EinStein’s Gate (idea from bas). I think the latter is more plausible.
        Also, the Japanese are really obsessed with German. They call part-time jobs baito while job means Arbeit in German (pronounced ‘arb-ight’)

      • Posted May 27, 2011 at 10:51 pm | Permalink

        You’re right! I’ve heard ‘baito’ many times, I knew the meaning and that is borrowed, and that’s something is missing. But I didn’t notice it was German, not English ;)

        Now all it makes sense :D Thank you!

      • Chipp
        Posted May 28, 2011 at 6:46 am | Permalink

        The Stein is fom Einstein for sure, I read this from some interview, and jap. wiki also mentions it.
        「シュタインズ・ゲート」という言葉は、作中の設定では主人公による造語とされているが(詳細は「#用語」を参照)、「シュタイン」の名称は物理学者であるアルベルト・アインシュタインに由来しており、それゆえアインシュタインが提唱した相対性理論など物理学の要素が物語中に組み込まれている。

  9. Posted May 27, 2011 at 9:39 pm | Permalink

    Oh,,, You reminded me of Austrian scientist (he was Jewish also) named EinSTEIN :P He is the one who made time travel theoretically possible.

    And as a student of physics, I can assure you, scientist doesn’t use semicolon to tell proven theories (which we call laws, btw) from not yet proven theories (which we call theories)

    • mcm38
      Posted May 27, 2011 at 10:25 pm | Permalink

      >.<
      My mistake =.=''

    • Anonymous
      Posted May 30, 2011 at 2:28 pm | Permalink

      proven the­or­ies (which we call laws, btw) from not yet proven the­or­ies (which we call theories)

      You’re wrong. Tug your dick back in and list Mr ‘Physics student’.

      A scientific law and a scientific theory are two very different beasts. A scientific law (like Newton’s Law of Gravity) is simple, static and is only valid in certain constraints (low-gravity limit in this example). Whereas a scientific theory (like Einstein’s Theory of General Relativity which supersedes Newton’s Law of Gravity) is generalization and explanation of the evidence (read proof) we have from observation and experimentation while also adapting to new findings (The Theory of Evolution of today is far better than Darwin’s initial version he put out to the world).

      Both scientific theories and scientific laws are proven concepts supported by evidence, unproven concepts are called hypotheses. I hope you are less stupid after reading this post BAŚ, my advice, actually go study physics, or at least pay attention in physics class in high school where they teach you these simple basics.

      • Anonymous
        Posted May 30, 2011 at 2:30 pm | Permalink

        “You’re wrong. Tug your dick back in and listen* Mr ‘Phys­ics student’.” even.

      • Posted May 30, 2011 at 5:15 pm | Permalink

        NONYMUS: My, my, you’re agressive one…

        I’m quite aware of differences between both ideas, And I’m, as well, quite sure about my own gender (which you have got wrong)…

        So, I do think, although it is really simplified, what I had written above is correct (even if more accurate would be: ‘there are no proven theories, the part of theory which is proven we call a law’).

        I’m also sure I listen to my professors carefully, but it would be hard for me to go back to high school. Though, what’s impossible for me as I am now is to ‘tug my dick’. So sorry, I won’t do it. Maybe I’ll send my mom a massage into the past telling to eat more meat, less vegetables…

  10. luffyluffy
    Posted May 27, 2011 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    tried it

    got to episode 4

    dropped

    • Scamp
      Posted May 27, 2011 at 10:22 pm | Permalink

      you have no taste

      • luffyluffy
        Posted May 27, 2011 at 10:24 pm | Permalink

        At least I tried it and dropped it.

        I could always continue to call this crap because you blogged it over Tiger & Bunny ;D

        Speaking of no taste, I showed my anime club Gankutsuou today. They didn’t get it.

      • Anonymous
        Posted May 30, 2011 at 2:33 pm | Permalink

        They didn’t get it.

        Oh god damn I should stop reading old comments, they’re infuriatingly retarded. Past people are stupid people. Yes, you too Anonymous, forgetting to finish your fucking words.

        Don’t be a pretentious fucktard Luffyluffy. You’re the one that has no taste for not watching both Tiger & Bunny and Steins;Gate and [insert half a dozen other great shows this season].

  11. Posted May 28, 2011 at 4:27 am | Permalink

    I’m not a huge fan of Ruka either. They made him a character with the personality of soggy drywall, and I found the antics more amusing when they weren’t centered around him. Still, it was only for an episode, so it still gets a pass, if only for the suspense they keep building. And I’m a begrudging fan of the synchronized tutturu.

    I like the feeling that they’re reaching this giant precipice, that Kyouma’s about to tip over and spiral the entire thing out of control if he does one microwave experiment that impacts the past more than it’s already doing.

  12. Posted May 28, 2011 at 7:11 am | Permalink

    meh. i was bored with this ep too. and i was also waiting for a character to suddenly disappear and be all bent out of shape over it. way to troll, steins gate.

    dont really have any theories other than having the feeling that we’ll be entering madoka-esque time traveling territory soon. or maybe we’ll have a terminator-esque time-chase. who knows.

  13. Repel Lugubrious
    Posted May 28, 2011 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    On the subject of Steins; Gate’s title.

    Steins = Einstein’s > Steins = Stone(s) > Steins = (A guy named) Stein’s

    Here’s also a friendly reminder that ‘Gate’ is sometimes used as a suffix to denote a scandal.

    That’s Watergates; Legacy.

    This could be in refference to Hououn, or someone else but it will probably be Houhoun, unveiling SERN’s conspiracy creating a scandal that will forever be remembered as: (Ein)Steins(; )Gate.

    God, I know I have abused so many punctuation marks in this post and I am sorry for it, amen.

  14. 3242
    Posted May 28, 2011 at 4:18 pm | Permalink

    Is it just me or is our friend Moeka still VERY suspicious? I keep getting that feeling that she is a spy for SERN and that they decided ahead of time that if she ever got that text message it would confirm their suspicions that what our group here is doing is real time travel.
    Also, it may not be a significant effect of Ruka’s mom eating veggies. It may of changed her diet and the overall circulation of money and food, very slightly, but still changedit. Or maybe Ruka’s mom got sick from eating some bad vegetables that had the wrong expiration date on them and diddnt look like they had gone bad.
    *shrug*
    Time travel. My mind is going into whirls and whirls among whirls.

  15. arman
    Posted May 29, 2011 at 6:04 am | Permalink

    “…Well, maybe not so hor­ri­fy­ing on that last one…”

    how can u be so cruel to the shining finger just because she is weird and got big boobs with a skirt that u think might fall down if she walks a little faster.

    i just guess there must be some relation between the satellite and kuriso death and probably one of her parents (mostly her father, i guess he is or was working for sern and doing time travel researches) and i guess kyoma didnt save kuriso from death, because if he did, with his almighty reading steiner he would remember that.

  16. arman
    Posted May 29, 2011 at 6:09 am | Permalink

    oh, and may be ruka has really become a girl, but with boobs like beans so we couldnt notice the change. may be this time his mom didnt eat enough tomato

  17. Posted May 29, 2011 at 4:26 pm | Permalink

    I have a feeling that Kyouma will be like Homura, always going bak in time to set right what went wrong in this timeline…. and if i gather all the little clues from the opening, something will probably happen to Mayushi. I hope not.

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