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Steins;Gate episode 17

Kyouma wasn’t being beaten up here. He was simply showing the thugs his new dance move, The Mad Scientisto. He describes it as Thriller meets The Matrix.

After being constantly baffled by the plot of the last two episodes, it sure was nice for Kurisu to explain the deal in the space of two expositionary dialogue filled minutes. Suzuha couldn’t get her hands on the IBM, so now Kyouma has to travel back in time using the Time Leap machine (the one that conserves his future memories but doesn’t change the world lines itself) to where every D-Mail that changed the world line happened and reverse them until he gets back into a world where the IBM is back in his hands again. Although now that I understand the plot, suddenly plot holes start to appear. If the world lines change, won’t it result in a world where Kyouma doesn’t have the Divergence Meter anymore? Although I suppose that could be explained away with it ending up in his hands had nothing to do with any of the D-Mails sent. Or, if Kyouma is going to leap back in time, he only can go back 48 hours. So how is he supposed to change all the D-Mails in such little time if he can’t go back to when they were created? Well, I guess changing Feyris didn’t require leaping back too far, just causing her to suddenly remember what the previous world line was like. Plus the world lines don’t change when he Time Leaps. Although does that mean that the reversed D-Mails no longer happened and he has to convince Feyris to kill her dad all over again?

Eurgh, time travel. I guess it’s less plot holes and more trying to wrap your head around the logic.

To be perfectly honest, I didn’t really like this episode. All the drama centred on Feyris, which is rather ruined when she sticks -nya at the end of her sentences. It’s hard to take a scene seriously when she’s effectively saying “My dad died meow”. Except when she took off her cat ears, where the nyas suddenly dried up. It was supposed to show how Feyris was taking off her mask and revealing her inner feelings and human side to Kyouma, but all I found myself thinking about during that scene was whether the cat ears were some kind of mind-controlling device that causes people to become irritating moeblobs. The whole scene felt like it was the Feyris Route Sex Scene from the game for the Feyris Fanclub to aim for (The Feyris fanclub consisting of Daru and Barrel Titor). Yes I know Steins;Gate is a sex-scene free game, but it still came off that way. Feyris is like Rukako in that they are outliers to the main cast, making it very difficult to care about them. Forcing this sudden drama with these characters does not work, unlike the dramatic scenes with Suzuha where they actually spent some time building up her character and her motivations. Since the next episode will almost certainly centre on Rukako, I dare say we’ll go through the same tired episode all over again.

Not that there weren’t little glimpses of Steins;Gate greatness in here. I loved the opening scene, where Steins;Gate seemed to be telling us “hey, it sure looks like everything is back to normal. You can stop worrying now, it looks like Mayushi is not going to die anymo-PSYCHE! Here comes CERN SERN and Shining Finger again!“. I also really liked where they revealed Suzuha had managed to get her hands on an IBM, but promptly gave it away. When you remember the heartbreak scene where they received her “I failed” letter, the fact that she actually managed to get her hands on one but not realise the importance really stung.

Personally though, I’m waiting for the world line where Kurisu works for CERN SERN and she is the one who storms into the room in a full body leather suit, delivers an evil Mad Scientist laugh, and shoots Mayushi. For pure OMG WTF NO WAI factor, there would be no better plot twist. Please do it Steins;Gate!

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  1. luffyluffy
    Posted July 27, 2011 at 12:39 pm | Permalink

    Kyouma is slowly becoming more and more moe the more broken he gets.

    Like when he’s all bandaged~ Adowabul <:3

    • mcm38
      Posted July 27, 2011 at 5:15 pm | Permalink

      The Mad Scientisto will never change his mad scientist ways!!!!!

  2. Anonomyous
    Posted July 27, 2011 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    My conclusion is
    Timeline 1
    You time leap and stop Suzuha’s email through D-mail reaching

    Timeline 2
    You time leap while remaining in Timeline 2 so nothing changes including the already reversed Suzuha’s email and Feyris D-Mails reaching

    Timeline 3
    Where Suzuha is gone, Feyris negated her own email and you time leap, remaining in the timeline where all this happened. This buys you another few hours for Ruka to reverse her/his D-Mail

    Timeleap = buying time to reverse the d-mails
    D-mails = Actually changing the timeline

    As for the divergence meter, since he knows where it is (and Suzuha’s future not changing further as all the other d-mails don’t touch her), he can simply pop down and take it

    • mcm38
      Posted July 27, 2011 at 4:24 pm | Permalink

      Pretty much sums it up. And the divergence meter stays with him, because he doesn’t timeleap further than the moment in which he receives it. So you just have to assume that in all the other timelines he would still have received the divergence meter (unchanged trough D-mail).

  3. LordOmnit
    Posted July 27, 2011 at 2:04 pm | Permalink

    The time travel works pretty simply: Time Leap jumps back x-hours in the current world line and can pretty much only give someone extra time to plan. D-Mails change the world line, but in the show they do it further back than anyone can Time Leap, so Time Leaps don’t jump back to before the D-Mail was sent (because it was sent in a different world line). Additionally this explains why Kyouma can’t just send a D-Mail back in time saying, “Don’t let Feyris send a D-Mail!” as in that world she never sent one, just received one. As for why Suzuha’s time-travel didn’t cause any difference we can only speculate that if you go back too far then later events conspire to keep the world lines as they were. Unless something crazy happens. I mean, what if Suzuha sabotaged CERN SERN in the past instead of going about the rigmarole of finding and securing an/the EYE BEE ENN 5.1k?

    • Mr. Anon
      Posted July 27, 2011 at 5:38 pm | Permalink

      Your analysis seems solid.

  4. Posted July 27, 2011 at 2:29 pm | Permalink

    Moe hater nyan

  5. Posted July 27, 2011 at 2:34 pm | Permalink

    Actually, the timeline where Suzuha doesn’t know the worth of the IBN got erased and ‘now’ she knows – she just died too soon and had to give it over to somebody for safekeeping. That’s why whats-his-name (Feyris’s dad) actually felt bad about getting rid of the thing – he was probably breaking a promise to Suzuha.

    That’s how I understand it at least. This probably worked better in written form than in the fast-forward the anime seems to be doing… not that I would know, though.

    • Posted July 28, 2011 at 5:48 am | Permalink

      This is exactly my understanding. Suzuha succeeded and gave it to Feyris’ dad for some reason, which is consistent with the original timeline, in which Feyris knows it was turned over to the shrine.

      • Scamp
        Posted July 28, 2011 at 10:51 pm | Permalink

        Are you sure about that? It seems rather irresponsible of her to give it to Feyris Dad. Why not give it to Mr.Braun like she did the letter? The connection between Braun and Okarin is certainly closer than it was with Feyris

  6. mcm38
    Posted July 27, 2011 at 5:10 pm | Permalink

    Now, we just got another HINT. Feyris’ papaaa~ sold the IBN for an abnormal price, which the buyer offered. So this unknown buyer is someone who knows the IBN has some special feat that makes it valuable. And we all know this can only mean one thing. The buyer was someone who knew about the IBN’s hacking ability in SERN.

    And I so mis the ‘El Psy Congroo!’ catch of Huouoin Kyouma. He didn’t use it for a long while now.

    Gonna make a list of all the nicknames, just because I feel like it.

    Members of the Future Gadget Laboratory:

    Founder; Lab Member 001
    Real name: Okabe Rintarou
    AKA: The Mad Scientisto, Huouoin Kyouma, Okarin
    Catchphrase: ‘El Psy Congroo!’

    Lab Member 002
    Real name:Mayuri Shiina
    AKA: Mayushii (some watchers also call her moeblob 1)
    Catchphrase: ‘Tutturuuu~!’

    Lab Member 003
    Real name: Itaru Hashida
    AKA: Daru, Supa~ Haka~ (meaning super hacker), Barrel Titor
    Catchphrase: Being perverted

    Lab Member 004
    Real name: Kurise Makisu
    AKA: Christiiina~, The Zombie, joshu (meaning assistant)
    Catchphrase: ‘Tsun tsun tsun tsun tsun dere tsun tsun dere’

    Lab Member 005
    Real name: Moeka Kiryu
    AKA: Shainingu Finga (Shining Finger)
    Catchphrase: ‘Mailu mailu’

    Lab Member 006
    Real name: Ruka Urushibara
    AKA: Rukako
    Catchphrase: Bishounen (tough turned to real girl afterwards)

    Lab Member 007
    Real name: Rumiho Akiha
    AKA: Feyris Nyannyan or just Feyris (some other watchers call her moeblob 2)
    Catchphrase: ‘…-nyan.’

    Lab Member 008
    Real name: Suzuha Amane
    AKA: Baito Senshi (Part-time Warrior), John Titor
    Catchphrase: Couldn’t find one, so I’ll go with awesome ninja moves.

    Damn aaaarggh… Be grateful, for this list. As I was looking trough wiki I stumbled upon a f*cking spoiler about another nearby member of SERN.

    • q
      Posted July 28, 2011 at 11:11 am | Permalink

      So cruel of you… How am I supposed to stop myself from digging up that spoiler??

      • mcm38
        Posted July 28, 2011 at 11:48 am | Permalink

        I hope that character was only a member of SERN in one of the VN’s routes.

  7. Posted July 27, 2011 at 6:30 pm | Permalink

    Feyris nyan nyan is back. It’s sad that this may be her last portion of serious screentime given that her problems are now solved.

  8. seansky
    Posted July 27, 2011 at 7:29 pm | Permalink

    i dont have time to read thru the other comments, and so i tot ill put my 2 cents on one of the plot holes…… Kyouma can only go back with the time leap machine for 48 hours, so he was not going back to when the d-mails were sent, but jus giving himself enuff time to try to figure out what d-mails were being sent, and try to send one that will cancel out what those previous d-mail caused, starting from the most recent…… so after changing 1, he can jus do the time leap again, and change another, then repeat it till he cancel everything? :)

    • mcm38
      Posted July 27, 2011 at 9:09 pm | Permalink

      This is the third time that’s been explained.

      • Posted July 28, 2011 at 5:43 am | Permalink

        You must have Reading Steiner!

      • mcm38
        Posted July 28, 2011 at 9:02 am | Permalink

        Lol. Now if only I also had a labcoat.

  9. luffyluffy
    Posted July 28, 2011 at 11:54 pm | Permalink

    Hey guys, I found this cool Divergence Meter screensaver that shows the date and the time.


    Take it.

    • AoFlames
      Posted August 4, 2011 at 5:50 pm | Permalink

      Thanks Man :D

  10. Someone Else
    Posted July 29, 2011 at 5:06 am | Permalink

    If they are going to undo D-Mails, probably they will all remember what they put and things that happened before and after and this seems to what they are trying to show here in this episode.

    SO this means, Moeka will be the hardest to undo. I’m curious to what everyone sent now with their selfish wants.

  11. Posted July 29, 2011 at 5:16 am | Permalink

    I very audibly groaned when Feyris was thrown back in, but I like that it’s finally found its focus for the next few episodes. Not that the past few have been bad, but they did seem like they didn’t have much of an idea where to go.

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