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Samurai Flamenco episode 13 – Who cares anymore [dropped]

Samurai Flamenco - 13 - Large 19You probably saw this coming. The latest episode of Samurai Flamenco featured the super sentai team treating their situation very seriously. The monsters are coming in to destroy Japan and everyone needs to evacuate, but the corrupt politicians (for there is never anything other than corrupt politicians in anime because any other depiction would require too much thought and reflection) don’t want to evacuate everyone and just want to save themselves. There is much angsting over the possibilities and whether they should reveal it to the world. Yes its all a bit silly, but if intended as parody it falls under Poe’s Law of being indistinguishable from just being a pile of crap, badly written story.

That’s the central problem right now. Samurai Flamenco has simply become badly written. It has crap dialogue, a stupid story and one-dimensional characters. If intended as a parody, which it is probably supposed to be, it’s a bad one that just mirrors the worst parts of the genre it’s parodying. Even if I could get into this story they’re telling and get emotionally invested in Masayoshi’s role as the leader, the next episode could pull another Guillotine Gorilla and render the entire previous batch of episodes meaningless all over again. I’ll keep an eye on the next episode, just in case it does pull another Guillotine Gorilla, or in case it finally is revealed this is all Red Axe’s new TV show (which if it was, it stopped being funny 3 episodes ago). But unless otherwise stated, Samurai Flamenco is DROPPED.

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24 Comments

  1. Kubukurin
    Posted January 19, 2014 at 12:44 pm | Permalink

    Why Samumenco, why?
    You were brilliantly written and featured a credible homosexual quasi-couple.
    You were funny and smart. Finally a fucking anime without the dumb highschool cast and it goes to bananaland. WHY

    • Scamp
      Posted January 19, 2014 at 10:58 pm | Permalink

      I genuinely do not know. I don’t even have a snarky witty response. It’s just baffling really

  2. Posted January 19, 2014 at 1:31 pm | Permalink

    Flamenco is definitely not an anime for people who don’t like the sentai/toukatsu genre so you’re getting no complaints from me regarding dropping the thing.

    • Familyguy1
      Posted January 19, 2014 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

      Yeah I agree. I was just hanging on just to see where it went, now I will probably not watch it anymore. Man, your avatar is extremely fitting to my attitude towards this show.

  3. Shikamaru
    Posted January 19, 2014 at 2:38 pm | Permalink

    The main problem for me now that I have gotten over the fact that this is now a sentai anime or a parody of sentai anime is the comedy. Where is it? This series used to be funny. Now it’s just boring. I’m going to try to finish this series because I really rarely drop anime after I have watched half of it already. Plus I actually still like Goto and Mari.

    Biggest suspense in Samurai Flamenco is Goto’s girlfriend. That’s really sad.

  4. Cobrah
    Posted January 19, 2014 at 3:24 pm | Permalink

    I think I will stick with this one just because I’m curious on how it will all end (and who Goto’s girlfriend is damnit) but I agree, any emotional investment I had is long gone.

    • Scamp
      Posted January 19, 2014 at 11:00 pm | Permalink

      Man, if Goto’s girlfriend appeared next episode, that might just make me watch it

  5. asdfasdf
    Posted January 19, 2014 at 4:55 pm | Permalink

    This is like, the worst time to drop it. Everything is about to get real. That character that keeps reappearing around Masayoshi is indicative of his psychosis. They are not done making this show crazy.

    • Cirith
      Posted January 20, 2014 at 11:37 am | Permalink

      “Not done making it crazy” is only a good thing if you think their making it crazy made it a better show.

  6. Kinza Datteri
    Posted January 19, 2014 at 4:59 pm | Permalink

    In my opinion that show is not a parody. It’s the other way round: if you took normal super-sentai show and compared it to this one, it would look like the original is parodying Samumenco. This one is something I’d call “behind the super hero show” or “behind super-sentai”. While “originals” focus on how the hero deals with monsters/small amount of personal story and let us assume that everything else around “just happens” thanks to suspended sense of disbelief, here we have all of that untold truth described in painful details with a spice of greed and desensitization of the society.

    It’s a serious tale set in a completely nonsensical world. That is why we often think it’s a parody – while in reality it’s a story about people who somehow adapted to absurd situation (monsters, aliens, superpowers, super weapons and giant robots exist) and try to deal with it all using their very limited strengths, convictions, common sense, going with the flow or just trying to gain something from this whole mess.

    I wrote it somewhere else already, but sometimes when I watched Super-hero/super-sentai shows I had many questions in back of my head: does really nobody die when half of the city is destroyed? Why are monsters bound to lose in the end? What if heroes behaved like normal people? How would society react after being exposed to something so unnatural? What if there were was no one truly saint, heroic, good, idealistic, simply naive or stereotypical in the group of heroes? What if it was set in cold and greedy setting similar to our own world? Samumenco answers all those questions and then some more and it’s sheer absurd of those answers and situations that made us think it is comedy. No, it’s not. The heroes are not “normal” people from both my and Samumenco society’s POV, I don’t want to project myself onto them unlike I did as a kid in SH/SS shows – hell, I even think they are deranged, mentally or emotionally unstable or even disabled and have problems with perceiving the reality and assesing the risk – and that’s why for once they are perfect to be heroes. It is hard-boiled drama and that is why in opinion of many it swung back and forth from serious to comedy – while in reality it was from only seriousness to seriousness with absurd, psychotic or schizophrenic setting, caricatures and blowing things out of proportion which really has repercussions on people from the show.

    That’s why I love it. I understand why you dropped it though and I think it might have been good decision. At least until we see how it ends.

    • Scamp
      Posted January 19, 2014 at 11:08 pm | Permalink

      Interesting take on Samurai Flamenco. One problem I’d point to your interpretation is it doesn’t explain the first half of the show and the Guillotine Gorilla transition at all. Also the characters are still hugely one-dimensional and boring. Well, the rest of the sentai team who aren’t Masayoshi. Still, interesting view

      • TheVoid
        Posted January 20, 2014 at 9:19 pm | Permalink

        I actually felt bad for the Blue one once I saw his tiny apartment next to the train tracks. That’s all I needed to see to know how much he wanted to be a Red Ranger.

        Kinza Datteri’s explanation is likely the most logical interpretation at this point.

        Masayoshi has always wanted to fight evil organizations and the like ever since he dreamed of being a superhero and he wanted to work his way up from small crimes to it, but now that it’s been made a reality he’s not happy. Everything is serious, people die, and the weight of keeping secrets actually makes him vomit in a bathroom. His dream got made reality, but now he’s starting to realize that it’s not what he thought it would be.

  7. Varyn
    Posted January 19, 2014 at 5:55 pm | Permalink

    Personally never picked it back up after the Christmas break, and have been keeping an eye on these posts to see if it’ll finally recover. I can’t imagine any other show you’d wade through 5 episodes of pure shit in the hope of recovery. Just shows you the emotional attachment we had to the series and just what level of fan the writers threw away with the aftermath of guillotine guerilla.

    But dat gif lol.

  8. Posted January 19, 2014 at 5:56 pm | Permalink

    I really want to drop this show, but I’m also afraid it’ll return to the good old bgg days. Heck, that scene with Goto in this episode made me think those days are still here. I’m probably going to regret continuing to watch this, but at least it’ll give me something to complain about.

  9. strukingfourd
    Posted January 19, 2014 at 6:55 pm | Permalink

    BUT WHAT ABOUT GOTOS GIRLFRIEND!???

  10. gedata
    Posted January 19, 2014 at 7:39 pm | Permalink

    so this is how it feels to enjoy something everyone hates

    not sure if I like this feeling or not.

    • Posted January 20, 2014 at 1:35 am | Permalink

      It is normally strange to do so unless the people are comically writhing in agony over it.

  11. Di-Dorval
    Posted January 19, 2014 at 8:27 pm | Permalink

    Meh to me this episode was the only real faux-pas. Really didn’t care about the whole evacuation drama. Though I still enjoy the rest of the story and I’m very curious about it’s direction.

  12. Posted January 20, 2014 at 1:40 am | Permalink

    Japan has too many corrupt depictions of authorities, and America has too many non-corrupt depictions (see: every crime show since the dawn of television).

    I originally wanted to watch this but the badness does not sound entertaining enough to me.

  13. Danger
    Posted January 20, 2014 at 3:29 am | Permalink

    Goto’s girlfriend is either dead (it would explain his scene in the first OP), or he’s just really dedicated to his waifu. Those “texts” are probably just some sort of Cleverbot, as Scamp said.

  14. Wodes
    Posted January 20, 2014 at 6:38 am | Permalink

    Dropped this 1 episode after guillotine gorilla, but kept reading these posts to see if it got any better. Apparently not :(

  15. Posted January 20, 2014 at 12:55 pm | Permalink

    Not a surprise there.
    I once waited for this anime each week with anticipation.
    But I watched the recent episode with dead fish eyes.
    It’s simply not interesting.
    It’s a shame that I have invested so many time it, but it’s better to be late than never. This makes the 2nd on going show that I dropped. The first one being Golden Time, the bull shit anime.

  16. Johnny Joestar
    Posted January 23, 2014 at 12:03 pm | Permalink

    I’m with you, I have no interest in this anymore either.

    Too bad you didn’t use a gif of a body being thrown out of the window from the gorilla scene.

  17. Cirith
    Posted January 29, 2014 at 5:26 pm | Permalink

    Damn just watched 11-13, a few decent jokes but all in all a waste of my time. The seriousness of 13 just didn’t work with what came before.
    The show just didn’t bother to use what it already had instead of introducing (worse) new stuff.

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