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Nisemonogatari episode 6

This post may contain copious amounts of Senjogahara Fascination. You have been warned.

However it will not contain any Mayoi Fascination because that segment was shit. It’s almost a thing now with Nisemonogatari. Skip the boring conversation segment and talk about The Good Bits.

I love Senjogahara. The way she twists words and phrases she says so you start to wonder how much she truly believes what she says is fantastic. Random example would be her occasional dropped comments of how she bows down to Tsubasa. A large part of that is an act, and an act she uses specifically to mess with Arararagi. However Senjogahara doesn’t ever lie either. She manipulates the truth, exaggerating it for her own amusement. There’s definitely a certain degree of respect yet fear she has towards Tsubasa, a reason we don’t know, but you can’t quite tell what that reasoning is because she masks it behind this dry delivery.

This may be a strange comparison, but it’s rather similar to Glados in the first Portal game. Glados always lies, but the trick is figuring out why she’s lying and what truths she’s hiding through that lie and how she delivers it. Senjogahara always tells the truth, but it’s a modified version of the truth, so you have to extrapolate both what the exact truth is and why it is she says it the way she does. It’s a microcosm of the main strength of the -monogatari series. The way the plot is weaved between these meandering dialogues between Arararagi and whoever he’s talking to. It doesn’t do it perfectly, and I get the complaints many people have directed towards this series, but there’s nothing else that does what the -monogatari series does that I’m willing to roll with the missteps.

Like pencils. Why pencils Shaft? No really, why pencils? You’ve completely lost me in that regard. It’s like Shinbo was reading the source material given to him by Nision and scanned it for some directions for what Senjogahara’s room looked like, but only found the reference to her sharpening a pencil. So Shinbo, in all his wisdom and glory, decided “fuck it, let’s make it all pencils!”. Oh whatever Shaft. At least you gave us a wide variety of angles to look at Senjogahara from.

It’s not even like she’s dressed particularly provocatively or the camera is on perv mode, in usual Shinbo fashion. They just like to let you hang onto the edge of her every word. Which is probably why there’s so close ups of her mouth. At least it makes more sense than all the fucking pencils. Maybe they’re meant to be phallic imagery or something.

This is probably the perviest image in the episode. Far cry from naked loli titties baths stripping pedoshinbo of old.

Yeah don’t mind me. I’m just indulging in some Senjogahara Fascination.

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32 Comments

  1. Moomba
    Posted February 13, 2012 at 9:20 pm | Permalink

    Perhaps the pencils are supposed to relate in some way to Senjougahara’s previous fascination with using stationary as weapons?

    They’re also very red and stacked pretty strangely, kind of like the ladders from the first episode. Maybe there’s a running theme here? Or maybe (more likely) I’m looking too deeply. It is Shaft after all.

    Also, Senjougahara’s hair grew back awfully fast huh?

    • Shogun
      Posted February 13, 2012 at 9:32 pm | Permalink

      “Per­haps the pen­cils are sup­posed to relate in some way to Senjougahara’s pre­vi­ous fas­cin­a­tion with using sta­tion­ary as weapons?”

      Yeah, didn’t Araragi ask why she was arming herself so heavily? Because she was going off to fight Kaiki.

      Personally, I think Shinbo just likes that primary red contrast with Senjougahara’s personality.

    • Anonymous
      Posted February 13, 2012 at 10:35 pm | Permalink

      She has yet to cut her hair, she had it in a ponytail for the first few episodes. She does mention Hanekawa cutting her to represent her moving on though and says that dealing with Kaiki will be her way of moving on. Not sure if that means she will cut her hair once Kaiki is dealt with but I suspect it does. It will be a sad day.

      • Moomba
        Posted February 13, 2012 at 10:45 pm | Permalink

        I was confused by the early promo art and a short memory :x Completely forgot about the ponytail. I very much like her with long har too, so I continue to hope that it’ll stay this way.

    • Posted February 14, 2012 at 4:20 am | Permalink

      Hm, the pencil structures could represent Hitagi’s emotional state and default response to those who get close to her:

      Now, could I make a comparison between the pencil structures’ precarious but threatening nature – ability to come tumbling down with just one part being removed, but also very sharp and painful for those who touch – with Hitagi’s own fragility and harsh outer shell? Probably, but I’m not sure that it goes beyond a convenient coincidence. That said, Shaft is entitled to any interpretation that we might make.

      -from Metanorn

      As I mention, Shaft is much more likely to have done it because it looked pretty, but, as they say, the author is dead, and it’s really up to your own interpretation whether that connection is strong enough to be of any note.

      I should also note that Nisio’s original writing did mention that she had piles of pencils already prepared in her room. Not as towers or any sort of structures, mind you – that part is all Shaft/Shinbo.

    • Scamp
      Posted February 14, 2012 at 2:22 pm | Permalink

      You guys know that I do love reading too much into everything, especially when it comes to comedies like the -monogatari series, but man…I think you guys have gone further than I could ever bother with those damn pencils

  2. Shogun
    Posted February 13, 2012 at 9:35 pm | Permalink

    I love that pic of Senjougahara. Just a little bit of skin showing, and the way her fingers frame it feels like a ‘Don’t you want to see more?” tease.

    Senjougaraha Fascination is finally back in vogue.

  3. Anonymous
    Posted February 13, 2012 at 9:36 pm | Permalink

    Ararar­agi

    Compensating for the episode I see.

    • Scamp
      Posted February 14, 2012 at 2:23 pm | Permalink

      That name is like Durarararara. You’re never quite sure how many ra’s there are

  4. mcm038
    Posted February 13, 2012 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    The books in Kanbaru’s room were also red. The ladders and now this. The theme when Kaiki first show up is also in red and black. I think this is an indirect reference to the red and black screens.
    Heck go back and watch all the episodes, there’s always some red stuff in the background, who look like everyday stuff but highlighted with the furios red color.

  5. Posted February 13, 2012 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    Now it’s full Bakemonogatari style.

    If only it would still have the glorious old ED, it would be indistinguishible from it.

  6. ペーパー先生
    Posted February 13, 2012 at 10:55 pm | Permalink

    Even though it does have bit of useless dialogue at the beginning, I’d have to say I was pleasantly surprised at the amount of actual story telling. It seems to me that the amount of pointless conversations and pedophilia are slowly decreasing. I can only pray this trend continues.

  7. Anonymous
    Posted February 13, 2012 at 11:16 pm | Permalink

    Quite enjoyed this episode, not the biggest fan of Senjougahara but her scene was still nice. Looking forward to next week, hopefully some big things will happen.

    And I must say that it feels like you guys are overreacting to the so-called pedophilia scenes, even during those scenes the conversations have been the main focal point.

  8. Redcrimson
    Posted February 13, 2012 at 11:55 pm | Permalink

    I don’t care what anyone says, Hachikuji is the best -monogatari girl.

    • Scamp
      Posted February 14, 2012 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

      Booo Senjogahara is the best you just suck and are a pedo or something etc.

  9. J.Rey
    Posted February 14, 2012 at 12:14 am | Permalink

    While the Mayoi part isn’t great it still shows us that Araragi and Mayoi get along really well and that she’s important to him not because she’s a loli but because she’s someone he can seek advice from, not to mention the part at the end of her segment where there is some obvious foreshadowing for things to come involving her character.

    Also I’m no expert but, I thought the pencils went along with how uneasy Gahara was feeling, since many objects around the characters seem to take on their emotions in different scenes throughout the series. The more she talked about things she wasn’t confortable with the higher and higher the stack of pencils got and as soon as Araragi made her feel secure she made the stack fall.

    I also thought the red might represent what characters judge something or someone as bad. The books for example annoy Araragi because he has to clean them up, the pencils are Gahara’s insecurities, and in a few shots in the conversation between them, Gahara is surrounded by red chains and red jail bars which many would consider bad, and in Gahara’s flashbacks the crab, the would be rapist and her mother’s silhouettes are red which she might also consider bad in some form. This wouldn’t explain the ladder in his house though so I’m probably way off and it is just nonsensical crap.

    Sorry long comment but just wanted to add my 2 cents or 3.

    • Scamp
      Posted February 14, 2012 at 2:27 pm | Permalink

      I’m pretty sure that so-called foreshadowing with Mayoi was just a joke. After the foreshadowing he said “lol jk I have nfc what will happen to her”

      • J.Rey
        Posted February 15, 2012 at 2:25 am | Permalink

        If it were Senjougahara saying that line I would have believed it was just a joke but when Araragi says it like that I’m inclined to believe something will happen to her but I guess it’ll be years before we find out sadly (I really like the series ha).

      • ペーパー先生
        Posted February 18, 2012 at 4:33 pm | Permalink

        It could still be foreshadowing. Even though he’s joking, something big could happen. Like a foreshadow within a foreshadow. Foreshadow-ception.

  10. Posted February 14, 2012 at 4:34 am | Permalink

    I find it somewhat amusing that, in a post that is ostensibly about episode 6, you spend the entire time explaining why you like Senjougahara.

    Not that I don’t like her. She’s a very well-written character. But characters can only get you so far.

    This episode essentially serves no purpose other than Senjougahara fanservice. I’d bet money that, come next episode, you could strike this one out entirely and nothing would be lost. As much as I like the style and core idea of the -monogatari series, the atrocious pacing issues are getting absurd. Even Bakemono managed to finish two arcs by the time Nise is finally getting around to maybe doing a conclusion to its first one.

    • Posted February 14, 2012 at 5:25 am | Permalink

      Wait, Hitagi is going with the protagonist to face off against the antagonist of the arc, and you think that her explaining her motive for it will serve no purpose in the story?

      • Posted February 14, 2012 at 6:25 am | Permalink

        The third episode gave her enough motive to go along with Araragi to battle Kaiki, anyway.

        Yes, she got much more specific in this episode, but I can’t help but feel like spending an entire episode just doing that was a bit of a waste. You could have put that explanation in the third episode. Or the fifth. Or in place of any conversation in this show that was both boring and pointless.

      • Scamp
        Posted February 14, 2012 at 2:29 pm | Permalink

        Nah, I’m with lvlln on this one. The conversation served a purpose explaining her position on the subject and her new feelings towards Arararagi’s position on it too. It was expanding on what we got from episode 3

  11. luffyluffy
    Posted February 14, 2012 at 4:58 am | Permalink

    I liked the episode, but Nisemono doesn’t feel like Bakemono for some reason. At the risk of sounding like a huge twat, it’s like Nisemono is a fake Bakemono.

    Also, from now on every comment will end with “Now go watch Zeta Gundam.” until you go and watch zeta gundam.

    Now go and watch Zeta Gundam.

    • Posted February 14, 2012 at 7:11 am | Permalink

      another anime blogger came up with the idea that Nisemonogatari is less of a true sequel of Bakemonogatari and more of a meta-discourse on anime fandom itself.

      Hence the “fake Bakemono” you’ve seen so far.

    • Scamp
      Posted February 14, 2012 at 2:30 pm | Permalink

      You know I’m not going to watch Zeta Gundam for a least a few years? I’m sick of Gundam, I don’t want to look at the thing

      • luffyluffy
        Posted February 14, 2012 at 7:25 pm | Permalink

        Good. By the time that AGE and Unicorn end, Origin should start and you can start all over.

  12. Posted February 14, 2012 at 11:22 am | Permalink

    Well, Hitagi’s room looked the same as it did in Bakemonogatari so I’d call it “precedence”.

    A large part of that is an act, and an act she uses spe­cific­ally to mess with Ararar­agi.

    There’s certainly something to do this but I’m more convinced by lvlln’s interpretation wrt Senjougahara being owned by Hanekawa mostly due to how Cat caused Crab to capitulate with just a simple phone call previously. Former is much more fragile than she lets on and her standard (non-crab) coping mechanism has been ‘a good offence is a good defence’. Hanekawa’s found her weak spot(s) and has been working it for all its worth. In these respect, Suruga’s allusion to what’s going on btw the two was probably the most perceptive.

    Skip the bor­ing… and talk about The Good Bits.

    How I maximize my enjoyment too.

    • Scamp
      Posted February 14, 2012 at 2:32 pm | Permalink

      Yes Tsubasa has control over Senjogahara, but -gahara acts like it’s an act. Errr, this is a bit hard to explain, but by over-exagurating her relationship with Tsuabasa, it hides the true level of the control she holds

  13. Posted February 14, 2012 at 4:30 pm | Permalink

    You know, if the rest of the show were to be just Ararargi and Senjogahara having conversations, I would totally be ok with that. The chemistry they have between each other is like that of Holo and Kraft in Spice in Wolf. It’s just so captivating and entertaining seeing the two of them together. Only thing is that I think Araragi and Senjogahara’s chemistry is more deep and thought provoking while Holo and Kraft is more light-hearted and romantic.

    Then again, if there was nothing but Araragi and Senjogahara conversations we would never get to see the sadistic and evil plans Kaiki has in store for the rest of the show, so I guess that’s out of the question.

    Also, I think Shinbo has a thing for red objects. Red pencils and oddly placed red ladders in Nise. Red books in Bake and the first episode of Nise.

  14. Posted February 14, 2012 at 8:49 pm | Permalink

    I’m sure there’s a comparison somewhere between Gahara’s fascination with pencils/staplers and the piles upon piles of red books in Kanbaru’s room. In fact, I wonder if every character has their own symbolism within collections.

    • zhai2nan2
      Posted February 15, 2012 at 2:11 pm | Permalink

      First off, I think the director loves magical realism. He deeply enjoys breaking the bounds of plausibility just to make the audience say, “I’m immersed because it’s pretty, but the immersion is broken…”

      It’s very art-film-y.

      As for the symbolism, Araragi has a zeppelin. The Fire Sisters have two halves of a circular bed. I don’t know if Monkey Girl’s books and Senjougahara’s pencils correspond to each other – but those two characters used to be represented as best buddies.

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