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Monogatari Series Second Season episode 7 – The meaning of life

vlcsnap-2013-08-18-16h12m56s74In case you’re reading this long past its release date, there’s no Monogatari Series episode 6 post because that was a recap. Good old Shaft hitting their usual high standards of a complete inability to plan their time efficiently. But at least this time we won’t be waiting over 6 months for the final 3 episodes like we were with Bakemonogatari. Although it was awfully nice of you to tease Kizumonogatari yet again without actually animating the full thing. You’d think that by this stage they have enough Kizumonogatari through teasing what happens in the story to animate at least half of the movie.

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Who is this dead-eyed girl? Some new girl to add to the roster when people like to argue about Best Girl, in which you are contractually obliged to include Meme in because he’s better than all the girls anyway with the exception of Senjogahara. Her big spiel didn’t do much for me. As Arararagi said, at the end of the day it was just her sharing a piece of information about all the lights at a crossroad being red at some point. The rest of her speech was a load of nonsense attempting to sound deep. Which I guess is what many people would call all of the Monogatari series, but let’s not listen to those people because they probably smell funny.

Dead-Eyes Girl seems like she could be an interesting character if we got to know her a bit better and understand where she’s coming from, and I assume we will. I don’t know why else they would have her appear at the start of this arc. Then again, I still don’t know why they decided to start Bakemonogatari with a shot of Hanekawa’s underwear, asides from to prepare you for all the ass and tits and toothbrushing that was in store for the rest of the series. “Hey dude, we started with a long and detailed shot of a pair of sexy underwear, don’t pretend you were ever under any impression this show was anything else”. On that note, doesn’t Dead-Eyes Girl seems surprisingly unattractive by Monogatari standards? Unless Dead-Eyes is a fetish now. Or at least it will become one by the end of her arc. I didn’t have a toothbrushing fetish once upon a time. Times change.

vlcsnap-2013-08-18-16h20m25s204The episode in general didn’t do much for me, and I think it might be because we’re back to Arararagi again. I know I said Hanekawa was boring a lot in the last arc, but that was mostly me trying to rile her fans up because I’m lovable like that. It was a great way to present the same Monogatari style content in an exciting and interesting new way, giving us different takes on the characters. After teasing the lack of Arararagi and building him up as this Mysterious Gentlement then finally re-appearing as Arararagi: Master of the Universe in the last arc, having him turn back to harem lead Arararagi who just wants to help people and makes stupid unfunny Doraemon references is kind of boring.

vlcsnap-2013-08-18-16h18m15s169Now we have a time-travel story, which came out of absolutely nowhere. I do love that the only reason they haven’t time-travelled before is because Arararagi never thought to ask. I also rather liked how completely blasé Shinobu is about creating time paradoxes. Arararagi should just go visit his own house and see if he’s there to establish what rules of time travel we’re operating under. If it happens to be the kind of time travel that having two of the same person meeting each other results in the space-time continium being ripped open and the entire universe collapsing in on itself, then oh well, nothing ventured nothing gained.

As for predictions on how they get out of this, doesn’t Arararagi’s body not age? He will stay a teenager forever, which will be rather awkward for Senjogahara once they’re in their 20’s and she looks like she has her own boy-toy. That would mean that if Arararagi simply waited out the next 15 years, he would still look like the same character except his clothes would look a big ragged and he might be a more experienced fighter. You see what I’m getting at here?

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32 Comments

  1. Fellow
    Posted August 19, 2013 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

    Fun fact: Kizumonogatari is actually about Hanekawa’s underwear.

    • Mr. Anon
      Posted August 19, 2013 at 5:08 pm | Permalink

      For any other show I would have assumed your comment to be silliness. And now here I am trying to figure out how her underwear is actually going to be plot relevant, or symbological like the hair and skirt length thing the girls have going.

    • sqa
      Posted August 20, 2013 at 5:04 pm | Permalink

      The first 2 minutes of Bakemonogatari actually told you why her underwear was important, if you did the frame-by-frame reading.

      Basically, Araragi saw Hanekawa’s panties, got horny, went to buy porn. Ran into Heart-Under-Blade: rest of entire series happens. They were even riffing on this a little in Nekomonogatari (Black) about Araragi being sexually frustrated because he hadn’t bought any porn.

    • Raymondjram
      Posted August 25, 2013 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

      You are partially correct. in Kizumonogatari, Koyomi has to fight three “monsters” to recover Kiss Shot’s body parts. Tsubasas helps him get “inspired” by giving him her panties. Later he asks for more “inspiration” and by chance he gets her bra. At the end , Koyomi comments that he now has a “SET”, but Tsubasa asks him to return the SET.

  2. Posted August 19, 2013 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

    I think we are starting to see the time constraints on trying to adapt multiple Monogatari light novels in one series when we are just dropping in new characters haphazardly with no introduction what-so-ever. Not even a “Hi I’m Me and I’m here to mooch off you for free popsicles.”

    • Posted August 19, 2013 at 10:06 pm | Permalink

      I get the feeling that Ougi was introduced in Kizumonogatari and I know that popsicle girl (ononoki?) had a few episodes in Nise, towards the end, so I had no trouble following what she was saying (and Ougi didn’t say anything plot specific anyway). I don’t think it’s too big a deal so far

    • Wave Master
      Posted August 20, 2013 at 5:03 am | Permalink

      Actually, this is Oshino Ougi’s first appearance. The anime wasn’t quite clear about it, but Koyomi is talking to Ougi in the future, so to speak. In the novel, he explains that it was the discussion with Ougi about traffic lights that reminded him of the incident when he time traveled, and made him decide to tell the reader/viewer about it. Ougi is really only shown to foreshadow her involvement in the future, as far as I know (I haven’t read much farther than the anime, so I shouldn’t be spoiling anything)

      Ononoki was already introduced in the last few episodes of Nise.

      • Raymondjram
        Posted August 25, 2013 at 4:07 pm | Permalink

        She will appear in future novels, and according to what I have read, she is NOT related to Meme.

    • Scamp
      Posted August 20, 2013 at 11:46 am | Permalink

      They do have 26 episodes to work with, and the show makes enough money for Shaft to take their time if they wish

  3. TienesMilanesas
    Posted August 19, 2013 at 4:16 pm | Permalink

    The underwear shot is part of the preview of kizu, not the start of bake.
    About that whole ‘waiting 15 years’, he did send a message to every girl so I guess there’s some pseudomagic bs to make them go back to the future.

    • Scamp
      Posted August 20, 2013 at 11:47 am | Permalink

      So they’ve been teasing Kizu ever since the very first shot of Bake?

      • TienesMilanesas
        Posted August 20, 2013 at 2:38 pm | Permalink

        Yes. Oh, and the montage thingy here in this episode is a PV of kabuki- the current arc. I do not know why they do that.

  4. fathomlessblue
    Posted August 19, 2013 at 5:01 pm | Permalink

    I assumed the recap was more to do the last minute decision to have Hanamonogatari (Kanbaru’s arc) as separate entity from the tv series. So unless you know something I don’t on this, I imagine there’s a strong likelihood we’ll see both more recap episodes before this series is done, and a possible delay for the final ova…. unless Shinbo’s somehow mastered time-management in the interim. Personally, I’m hoping the real reason for the change is that Kanbaru’s arc is simply too raunchy for telly.

    • Posted August 19, 2013 at 6:42 pm | Permalink

      I will destroy the world if we don’t get to see Kanbaru’s arc

      • Posted August 19, 2013 at 9:52 pm | Permalink

        I will destroy this blog if it doesn’t push for Kanbaru’s arc

      • Posted August 19, 2013 at 9:58 pm | Permalink

        I will destroy the next person who brings up Kanbaru’s arc.

  5. Posted August 19, 2013 at 10:27 pm | Permalink

    Important plot points (that were somewhat glossed over):
    Conversation 1 with Ougi WAS deep, it was just entirely irrelevant to the plot. I get the feeling that it’s like video game puzzles where one NPC gives you a bunch of totally random information that suddenly has a use when you’re doing a boss fight, etc.

    Conversation 2 with Ononoki is more of his usual banter (which, if you’re still watching this 3 seasons and a movie in, you can at least tolerate) but also establishes that there’s more to Mayoi’s conflicts beside the snail arc, and that these pressing issues need to be solved.

    The Doraemon reference may be unfunny, but it’s certainly not stupid:
    “In the Japanese manga Doraemon, the future grandson (Sewashi) of the lead character—Nobita—comes back in time to meet his grandfather in his primary school days intentionally to change the life he is in. Nobita questions the existence of his grandson that if he did marry Shizuka, the girl he likes (instead of the one he dislikes but conceived the father of his future grandson), what would happen to his grandson. Sewashi, along with Doraemon, replies that there are multiple paths leading to the same future, and they will still exist even if Nobita married another girl. The plot never explicitly told of when the history was altered, but later events in the plot did show a future where Nobita married the girl he likes and lived a better, wealthier life and yet, future characters showed no signs of remembering the original history. However, when being asked of Doraemon’s reason of being in the past, he replies that his role is to make sure Nobita marries the girl he likes, which mentally still reserves logic.”-Wikipedia on Temporal Paradoxes
    At the very least it foreshadowed the time travel, and may foreshadow more of the plot.

    And of course, we conveniently time travelled to just prior to Mayoi’s death. Expect to see some very much alive Mayoi in the future.

    What really irks me is how every single plot line could have been solved with time travel, since apparently it’s so easy to do. Nakedo arc? stop her from killing the snakes. Kanbaru arc? raid her house and destroy the paw. Tsubasa arc? save the cat from getting run over in the first place. Only Hitagi’s arc is a little harder to solve, since her problems were much more mental than supernatural. Tsukihi’s arc was actually just solved optimally the first time around so there’s nothing really to do there.

    • Scamp
      Posted August 20, 2013 at 11:49 am | Permalink

      I know who Doraemon is. The joke was stupid and unfunny because they just named the first time travelling anime that came to mind as soon as time travel was brought up. It wasn’t even clever. It was just “what is this, Doraemon har har har”.

      I have the same problem with time travel as you do. Hopefully they come up with a proper explanation for that

      • Posted August 21, 2013 at 8:00 am | Permalink

        Well, one thing this episode makes clear is that time travel isn’t trivial. Shinobu could only do it by using the power of the shrine, and once it’s used up, that’s it, can’t do it again, hence why Shinobu had to figure out how to get back.

    • Raymondjram
      Posted August 25, 2013 at 4:12 pm | Permalink

      If you watch this episode carefully, between 4:10 and 4:26 there is a short “preview” of what is to come. At 4:24 you will see a black silhouette of the futures Mayoi Hachkuji (the top picture shown here in the blog).Now I leave you all a riddle: The adult Mayoi is carrying rice in her famous backpack. Why? I know because I read the entinre novel (30 chapters), but I will not post spoilers. A hint is given in the special drawings done with the end theme.

    • Raymondjram
      Posted August 25, 2013 at 4:16 pm | Permalink

      “Nakedo arc? stop her from killing the snakes. Kanbaru arc? raid her house and destroy the paw. Tsubasa arc? save the cat from getting run over in the first place. Only Hitagi’s arc is a little harder to solve, since her problems were much more mental than supernatural.”

      Wodes, your questions will be answered by Koyomi himself in the next episode.

  6. DarkEnergy
    Posted August 20, 2013 at 6:24 am | Permalink

    I haven’t seen Nisemonogatari, so I appreciated the recap episode. I like how when Shinobu opened the time-gate, Araragi was like “Woah, isn’t this like a style they used 20 years ago?”

    With time travel, there’s a lot of room for interesting plot. But with the way things are looking now, I doubt they’ll be able to top the previous arc.

  7. Nagisa33
    Posted August 20, 2013 at 6:48 am | Permalink

    None of you guys seemed to mention blue haired, silly hat girl- Yotsugi. I was expecting her partner to come out of no where and pummel Araragi or at least smack talk him. I have to say that Yotsugi does have an interesting outfit and I thought it was odd that her ghostbusting partner wasn’t there.

    In any case, I found it interesting that they talked about their relation to death. I wonder if Araragi is going to ask Mayoi any questions, notably, if she’s actually happy or if she’ll pass on.

    • Scamp
      Posted August 20, 2013 at 11:51 am | Permalink

      I skip over entire segments sometimes with Monogatari if I don’t have much to say. Found most of the conversation rather boring, but I liked her “what is the meaning behind why I am alive/dead” thing. Was an interesting bit of introspection.

  8. Kirin
    Posted August 20, 2013 at 3:12 pm | Permalink

    I liked the fact that their current predicament is the direct result of both of them acting like complete idiots. Koyomi for just jumping into the portal without caring to ask about a way back, and Shinobu for simply not caring to begin with.

    This series is never complete without its trollish brand of humor that tends to come from absolutely nowhere. Only this time, they happened to run into the main plot along the way.

  9. R1CK_D0M
    Posted August 21, 2013 at 4:21 am | Permalink

    reminds me of that one episode of futurama where they’re sent back in time and fry discovers that he is his own grandfather.

    and no I don’t me araragi is his own grandfather, I mean man what if he pulled a bender and just waited underground for a couple hundred years until his friends dug him up

  10. ANON
    Posted August 21, 2013 at 7:46 am | Permalink

    stories about time travel are always “messy”. also, instead of doraemon, what would you have wanted as a time travel reference anime? time bokan?

  11. Posted August 21, 2013 at 8:04 am | Permalink

    “As for predictions on how they get out of this, doesn’t Arararagi’s body not age? He will stay a teenager forever, which will be rather awkward for Senjogahara once they’re in their 20′s and she looks like she has her own boy-toy. That would mean that if Arararagi simply waited out the next 15 years, he would still look like the same character except his clothes would look a big ragged and he might be a more experienced fighter. You see what I’m getting at here?”

    Which would make Araragi 29 years old going forward, dating the 18 year old Hitagi. Super creepy.

    • Someone Else
      Posted August 21, 2013 at 5:12 pm | Permalink

      Monogatari wise, that’s not creepy

    • Posted August 21, 2013 at 11:45 pm | Permalink

      Well, Shinobu’s centuries old. Think about that.
      #Legal#Shinbowouldhitit

  12. Someone Else
    Posted August 21, 2013 at 5:26 pm | Permalink

    OK that time travel plot seriously came out of nowhere. Considering that time travel is generally accepted to be more of a sci-fi phenomena, yet Monogatari is actually more of mythological based on what we see so far that’s why I find this really weird. First so far the only myth that I know about time travel is kronos which is basically Greek of origin while in Japanese mythology, I never even come across ANY myth about time manipulation. I remember playing a game on PS2 called Okami which is an amazing game which mixes multiple Japanese myths into a single plotline…Which has time travel BUT the time travel wasn’t myth but another sci-fi reference so seriously this new arc is really weird!

    In short I hope they’re not just throwing new plots just because they can. I know it’s Monogatari but I’m quite unsure if I’ll just let it go because it’s Monogatari. But of course my knowledge of Japanese myth is still pretty limited. Still who knows? Since I’m not sure if Shinobu is western or eastern vampire considering that Kizumonogatari still isn’t out yet -_-

  13. Raymondjram
    Posted August 25, 2013 at 4:14 pm | Permalink

    “Arararagi should just go visit his own house and see if he’s there to establish what rules of time travel we’re operating under. If it happens to be the kind of time travel that having two of the same person meeting each other results in the space-time continium being ripped open and the entire universe collapsing in on itself, then oh well, nothing ventured nothing gained.”

    The answer will appear in the next episode.

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