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Monogatari Series Second Season episode 10 – Meme reads the script

vlcsnap-2013-09-09-18h54m41s43Older Mayoi is cool damnit! She’s this backbacking, occult zombie hunting young adult with tank top and rough trousers. But she’s still got the sense of humour of regular Mayoi. She’s like a less provocatively dressed Lara Croft. Admittedly a lot of that comes from her surroundings. Anyone who has lived through the rough and tumble of the apocalypse is going to be shaped by that, albeit Mayoi came out with a sense of humour with the most serious injury apparently being that she feels a little lonely. So maybe this is less Mayoi’s character and just an extension of my almost sexual levels of fascination with the apocalypse. I find this Mayoi rather attractive because ladies who can take care of themselves are hot. Also it really, really, really helps if they’re not children.

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I really liked this episode and how they concluded the arc. Turns out I’m not completely burned out on time travel stories providing you put your own stamp on it. I’ve still managed to come away from the episode oddly infuriated though because we got a glimpse of the story I’ve said I really wanted to see Nisioisin tell. No, not the story where Mayoi turns into intrepid explorer of a doomed society armed only with her massive backpack and pocketfulls of rice, although that certainly helps. What we saw a momentary glimpse of was the ghostbusting trio in their own adventures. The Hawaiian shirt, the slimeball, and platform shoes. Not sure what happened to Bro-Girl, maybe she got caught by the zombies when her trousers fell down as she was running away because she had her belt around her thighs because that’s what all the cool kids do yo bro innit like.

Picture their story though. A vampire manages to single-handedly destroy the world, turning almost everyone into zombies bar a few lone survivors. The three of them meet up and fight a ceaseless battle against the zombies while trying to come up with a solution that realistically only they can. What I would love about seeing the three of them together is I simply can’t imagine their personalities working seamlessly together. They all seem to have too high opinions of themselves, with good reason, so I’d love to see them being all snide as they sarcastically compliment each other’s rice throwing abilities.

vlcsnap-2013-09-09-18h58m12s97Their solution is really fascinating when you break down the consequences. They get Arararagi and Shinobu to meet up with Mayoi at tell them to meet HEART UNDA BLADE ACCEL DREAM BLOOD LIGHTNING POTATO knowing that by presenting her with the simple proof that things could have been different, she would crack and lose her drive because the futility of it all was what drove her in the first place. How Meme knew where and when Arararagi would show up is a little beyond me, probably because he has access to the script as usual. They then use the power from HEART UNDA BLADE ACCEL DARKNIGHT NARUTOXHINATA XOXOXOXO to travel back to the correct timeline so they can live in a non-apocalyptic wasteland.

Which solves Arararagi’s problem, but it doesn’t save this timeline. It doesn’t save Meme and company in their attempts to restore the planet to a habitable state by altering the world’s atmosphere so there are paddy-fields in the sky and it rains rice all year round. It doesn’t save Mayoi. They did kill HEART UNDA BLADE ACCEL NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP NEVER GONNA which certainly helps, but it still means the world is doomed. That’s why I absolutely loved that scene where, upon finishing the note, Arararagi walks away from Mayoi and refuses to look back. He had to reject that this world even exists because he knows that in leaving it, he leaves it doomed. This Mayoi in front of him can’t exist in his mind because he knows he’s just leaving her alone again.

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As we go back to Arararagi’s normal world that is just as empty as the post-apocalyptic-hit version but at least it has his harem there, my mind is back with alternate universe Mayoi. The one alone in a wasteland with her bag and a single letter she’s been told to deliver. Left with weeks to come up with what she will say to Arararagi once she meets him so she comes off as nonchalant enough about her offer so she doesn’t sound creepy, and now is left alone again as her single attempt ended in failure, wondering what it is she should even do from here. I want her story.

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38 Comments

  1. Posted September 10, 2013 at 1:14 am | Permalink

    At the end, they (speculate?) that killing Kick Heart Agricola Under There will undo all the oddities that she created (except for all the people who died). So there’s that.

    I thought adult Mayoi had a lot of Senjougahara in her.

    • Posted September 10, 2013 at 4:03 am | Permalink

      Of course, there’s no way for Koyomi and Shinobu to confirm it, but Oshino’s request to them was indeed under the assumption that killing Heart-Under-Blade would de-zombie everyone. That’s why after they leapt back, Shinobu noted that people who died before the apocalypse or were killed during the panic won’t come back. So while it’s not a complete fix, they should have indeed saved that world from an apocalypse and brought it back to a state where human society can rebuild. They saved the girl and saved the world (who else caught that blatant Heroes reference?)

    • Scamp
      Posted September 12, 2013 at 8:01 pm | Permalink

      I thought Shinobu said earlier in the episode that she thought older Shinobu was already dead because she committed suicide? I lost the train of thought in that episode somewhere

      • Posted September 12, 2013 at 9:30 pm | Permalink

        Shinobu thought that her other self had killed herself because she noticed that the vampires had become zombies. She didn’t realize that the explanation was actually that she had failed. Now, how Oshino knew that killing Heart-Under-Blade would revert the failed vampires to humans, well, I guess that’s cuz he has the script. :3 Yeah, to be honest, I wasn’t a big fan of him essentially being omniscient.

  2. Pusswookie
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 1:18 am | Permalink

    This made me pick up Monogatari again.

  3. Posted September 10, 2013 at 1:37 am | Permalink

    This arc was fantastic.

    Grown-up Mayoi was cool.

    I really want to learn more about this world.

    But we can’t have nice things ;_;

    • Ramiel
      Posted September 15, 2013 at 5:39 pm | Permalink

      I personally loved seeing Final Form shinobu myself

  4. Pusswookie
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 1:46 am | Permalink

    Also, My Fantasies and I have always thought it would be really swell if Mayoi was Not a Child and now she is(n’t)!

  5. Coolwihp
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 2:25 am | Permalink

    I swear Kizumonogatari is edited and finished. They’re just being dicks at this point. I hope they don’t think it’s more interesting this way or something along those lines…

  6. Nagisa33
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 2:56 am | Permalink

    This arc leaves the previous one in the dust. We had the blandest character in the series try to grow a personality. Now we have intriguing vampire shenanigans, a beautiful post-apocalyptic setting, time travel, the ghostbusters, badass Mayoi, witty banter between Shinobu and Ararararararagi, and more emphasis on their relationship.

    What more can you ask for?

    Overall, this episode was massively entertaining. Also, Ararararararararararararararagi did ask Mayoi those questions on her ghostly status like I expected him to. (Maybe I can predict this well on FAL?) A solid arc overall, with plenty of pleasant surprises.

    • Scamp
      Posted September 12, 2013 at 8:13 pm | Permalink

      I preferred the last arc actually. This one was really only saved by the final episode. Up until then it was a little cliched. Also the last arc had more Senjogahara so it automatically wins.

      • Nagisa33
        Posted September 12, 2013 at 9:39 pm | Permalink

        But wasn’t she there for the needless fanservice scene that you weren’t too fond of? Hahahaha!

  7. BwackNinja
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 3:16 am | Permalink

    Kizumonogatari seems like it’s coming out at the right time if its intent was to make the most money. This season is the first time where the telling of that story is a necessity rather than just nice. As the fans fume about the fact that it hasn’t come out yet, they want more, not less of the Monogatari Series. To top it all off, being the prequel means that you don’t need any background on the series to dive in. That means that many fans will try to introduce their friends to the series through the movie. And then there will be a surge in blu-ray sales because people will want to watch/rewatch the series because of the background that the movie gave and how many subtleties will then be deemed important.

    It’s the perfect plan. Best of all, angry people won’t boycott, they’ll merely give the movie release more exposure.

    • Scamp
      Posted September 12, 2013 at 8:28 pm | Permalink

      Interesting theory, although I wonder about the poor person who watches Kizu and then asks what to watch next. Bloody hell this franchise has become utterly baffling to newcomers

      • BwackNinja
        Posted September 13, 2013 at 3:49 am | Permalink

        I’d actually go against the chronological order and recommend just going with the release order otherwise.

        Like that, you get things like Nekomonogatari Black failing to sexualize Karen when she gets back from an epic run referencing the toothbrushing scene in Nisemonogatari, and I’d say that’s funnier and more understandable that way because the situation is explained in Nisemonogatari rather than Nekomonogatari.

        Likewise with some events in chronological order, like Hanekawa asking out Arararagi with Hanekawa talking to Senjougahara about him. That kind of situation is made more interesting by the beginning of Ep 3 of Nisemonogatari where Kanbaru explicitly states Senjougahara wouldn’t kill anyone if Arararagi chose Hanekawa because Senjougahara’s relationship with Hanekawa was different.

        On the other hand, I think the series has to be watched more than once to get some subtleties anyway. It was only after watching the Hachikuuji arc in Bakemonogatari a second time did I notice that Arararagi and Hachikuuji were waltzing and even had fitting music.

  8. Posted September 10, 2013 at 4:08 am | Permalink

    Yeah, I really wish we had gotten more of Mayoi. Big fan of her look, the full-on pragmatic zombie apocalypse survivor getup. Nisio was probably too lazy to write any details of her actual backstory and decided that it’s better just to make good on his reputation and troll everyone. Given that time travel removes any time constraints, it would have been nice for the story to have one more act involving Koyomi and Shinobu surviving with Mayoi before going off to what they believed would be their deaths.

    • Scamp
      Posted September 12, 2013 at 8:31 pm | Permalink

      Or he keeps Mayoi as a kid because Nisioisin is a pedo. Probably a more likely explanation

    • Kioku from Laptop
      Posted September 15, 2013 at 12:50 am | Permalink

      Older Mayoi 2nd best girl. Second only to Senjougahara.

  9. Nazaren
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 7:22 am | Permalink

    I only wish it stretched for another episode or two, because there wasn’t enough future Mayoi. Otherwise I thought it was fantastic.

    Also, I’m curious about the amount of energy Shinobu drained from RIMSHOT AREOLA OHENRY NUTELLA ON TOAST and used for the time warp. I imagine it would have been enough to restore her to her original form, or close to it. So she either gave up on that (for now) to return with Pararagi to the original timeline, or she’s saving some of it for a rainy day.

    I’m surprised it didn’t come up in the episode, and I hope it does at some point.

    • Scamp
      Posted September 12, 2013 at 8:36 pm | Permalink

      My guess is she used it up, but that’s an interesting observation anyway. It goes back to the point Mayoi made earlier on in this arc that she could use the energy to turn back into her old self, implying that she didn’t because she wanted to be with Arararagi.

  10. DarkEnergy
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 9:37 am | Permalink

    At least now we’ll get more Senjougahara. Isn’t that the whole point of this series?

    Also, you totally got me with that Rickroll.

    Also, happy birthday Scamp! Would you post a review of what your birthday would be like if it was turned into an anime?

    • Scamp
      Posted September 12, 2013 at 8:37 pm | Permalink

      My birthdays for the past few years have been awfully bland tbh so it probably resembles Watamote at the moment

  11. Someone Else
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 9:49 am | Permalink

    Sometimes you need someone to be able to read the script so that everything can be concluded quickly. I find it bad actually but thanks to the visuals it wasn’t as bad. The conclusion feels lacking though but maybe because KIZUMONOGATARI ISN’T OUT YET. Same reason as always. Also I kind of didn’t like how they talk about routes which makes it sound like some eroge game, we had enough of those already with oreimo…

    So yeah did your monogatari girls’ rankings changed after this? Also based on reddit it was implied that no matter the route, it will also be Senjougahara, which means no Hanekawa route :(

    Oh also they say the next arc is probably about Nadeko which…makes me less motivated

    • Scamp
      Posted September 12, 2013 at 8:42 pm | Permalink

      If every universe, Senjogahara is always the Best Girl. I do like Shinobu a lot, but I’ve sort of always liked her. I even kinda liked her in Bake where all she did was sit in the corner.

  12. Shikamaru
    Posted September 10, 2013 at 1:19 pm | Permalink

    Again with the fight scenes. They tease a fight scene but it doesn’t even happen. Other than that I have no complaints. There was very little Mayoi which was weird, considering this is her story arc. Shinobu is better character so I’m not complaining. I’m really starting to enjoy Araragi/Shinobu scenes. If this somehow really turns into a story about them, I would be cool with that.

    Also, Adult Mayoi > Loli Mayoi

  13. Posted September 10, 2013 at 7:27 pm | Permalink

    Wasn’t Mayoi a ghost that only Araragi could see? If so why is she growing up?
    Not that I mind. Grown up Mayoi is cool.

    • Mr. Anon
      Posted September 10, 2013 at 8:18 pm | Permalink

      Did you not watch episode 8?

  14. Posted September 10, 2013 at 9:12 pm | Permalink

    I felt really depressed when Araragi and Shinobu just left after Mayoi handed them that letter. I feel there was so much more to be told and to happen between the three of them.

    Also the moral of this arc: do your fucking homework.

    • Scamp
      Posted September 12, 2013 at 8:48 pm | Permalink

      That scene has been the strongest from the show so far. I loved how he basically went “nope, can’t do this” turned around and left.

  15. Erif
    Posted September 11, 2013 at 4:06 am | Permalink

    I swear this to you Scamp, Shaft will definitely pull an Endless Eight when they finally come around to animating Kizu.

  16. Anonymous
    Posted September 11, 2013 at 8:22 pm | Permalink

    It’s a good thing 20-something Mayoi was only on-screen for so long. Mayoi Madness almost eclipsed Senjougahara Fascination in that short while.

    • Scamp
      Posted September 12, 2013 at 8:49 pm | Permalink

      Nothing shall ever eclipse Senjogahara Fascination you infidel

  17. Raymondjram
    Posted September 12, 2013 at 1:56 am | Permalink

    I wonder if the next episode will be another recap or the first episode of Onimonogatari, also known as “Shinobu Time”. According to the timeline, this new story follows Kabukimonogatari directly, as it begins with Koyomi returning with Mayoi to his home to return her backpack, which is what he was trying to do at the beginning of Kabukimonogatari. This is another treat for Shinobu fans as I believe it covers her life as Kiss-Shot-Aceola-Orion-Heart-Under-Blade (her full name isn’t hard to remember).

    • Posted September 12, 2013 at 1:59 am | Permalink

      If they’re going by novel publication order – and everything indicates they are – up next is Otorimonogatari “Nadeko Medusa,” the 4th one, since they announced they’d be skipping the 3rd story, Hanamonogatari. Shinobu Time is the 5th story.

      • Scamp
        Posted September 12, 2013 at 8:50 pm | Permalink

        ewww Nadeko arc. Also damn them skipping the Kanbaru arc. Didn’t they say they were doing that in spin-off dvd OVA’s or something?

      • Posted September 12, 2013 at 9:36 pm | Permalink

        Yeah, it sucks. Nadeko’s book was by far my least favorite. She’s such a boring character. Suruga’s story isn’t all that great either, though certainly much better… Thing is, Suruga’s story was the only one that could be delayed, since the other ones set stuff up for the big finishes in the final stories. I’m looking forward to Suruga’s OVAs which I hope comes out this decade, especially if they make good use of budget, like they did with this story.

  18. ANON
    Posted September 12, 2013 at 5:44 am | Permalink

    well, there was a lot to like in that arc, I just didn’t realized it before :D

  19. Raymondjram
    Posted September 14, 2013 at 7:12 pm | Permalink

    I just saw the next episode, and it is a recap of Bakemonogatari, but as told by Koyomi Araragi as he remembers all that happened. I found it very good as most fans did begin watching Bakemonogatari. I noticed that his voice sound older, and doesn’t match the original voice he has in Bakemonogatari.

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