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Kill la Kill episode 16 – Of course their headquarters is a beach

Kill la Kill - 16 - Large 14Time for a little change in pace. Thanks to Hunter X Hunter carrying on airing from now until the end of time and you evil lot giving him Sakura Kiss to blog, Shinmaru’s a bit overloaded with series. Meanwhile I, since I gave up on Samurai  Flamenco, only blog Nisekoi. So for the last 10 episodes or so, I’m going to be blogging Kill la Kill. I haven’t written about it since…ever on this blog, shockingly enough. Always something slightly better to write about for the monthly roundups, Shinmaru did the first impressions post. I’ve been watching it and thoroughly enjoying its nonsense, and now I have the perfect outlet to explain why. To keep it as short as Senketsu’s own recap, it’s an anime consisting almost entirely of all the crazy ridiculous legitimately entertaining parts of terribad anime back when I watched that stuff.

Kill la Kill - 16 - Large 23So in this episode, the massive revelation behind what Senketsu and the life fibres are was revealed, and it was complete and utter nonsense. Particularly when they started trying to justify their existence and how clothes made humans evolve (which, if we extrapolate further, means those dogs that batty old ladies dress up in costumes are on a higher evolutionary plane than your normal everyday dog). It reminded me of dream logic. It made perfect sense to you in the dream, but when you get out of the dream and start explaining it to someone else, you realise what a lunatic you sound. Oh of course there’s a secret underground organisation of nudists, and of course their headquarters is a literal beach. That’s why they’re called Nudist Beach.

In general though, Kill la Kill feels like it’s made up on the spot every week. You know the way in stories about making manga, you’ll get the scene where the co-writers or writer and editor are trying to come up with ideas for the plot and one person goes “hey you should introduce a villain” and the whole thing gives off the impression that they literally haven’t thought any further than next week in regards to how the story will go? That’s what I feel like Kill la Kill does. It’s still a fun show because the ideas they come up with are “and what if the life fibres were ALIENS” and “what if Satsuki’s mum started fingering her daughter in a romance bath”, but it doesn’t do much for continuity.

Kill la Kill - 16 - Large 30I don’t think there’s been a single instance of foreshadowing in the entire show. Certainly nothing I can think of implied the life fibres were from space. Every new character that re-appears seems to come out of nowhere. That pink umbrella girly, the Nudist Beach assassin, even Satsuki’s mum. It’s just plucked out of the air. Fucked if I know what the direction for this series is and what they’ll come up with next, because quite frankly I don’t think the writers know what’s coming next either. Which must be quite exciting from the writer’s own standpoint. “Oh boy I can’t wait to see what happens next. I hope Senketsu gets defeated and splits up with the main character…oh wait, I’m the writer, I can make that happen.” And then next week the writers get bored, as they always do, and that plot point gets resolved and we’re onto the next hair-brained idea. It’s not good storytelling, but it’s made for an entertaining show all the same.

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  1. A
    Posted February 2, 2014 at 11:18 pm | Permalink

    How is an episode of incomprehensible plot dumping that you expect to be thrown away entertaining?

    • Scamp
      Posted February 3, 2014 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

      Because it was told in an entertaining fashion

  2. Posted February 2, 2014 at 11:43 pm | Permalink

    I personally love Kill la Kill’s “make up story as it goes along approach”. The actual meat might have been made up as it went along, but the main plot bones were definitely planned ahead of time. With that basis laid out, it can throw in as many random details as it wants in order to keep things exciting whilst not making it look like bad fanfiction in the process as long as said details are entertaining. It’s a work of art. Messy art, but no less beautiful for it.

  3. Pusswookie
    Posted February 3, 2014 at 2:26 am | Permalink

    My dick was really confused this episode. It was neat getting to see more behind the scenes with Satsuki though, that, I’m at least sure of.

    • Shinmaru
      Posted February 3, 2014 at 3:38 pm | Permalink

      It’s OK, you’ll always have Neferpitou.

      • Pusswookie
        Posted February 4, 2014 at 6:44 am | Permalink

        Thanks man, I…I needed that.

    • Scamp
      Posted February 3, 2014 at 9:52 pm | Permalink

      Hey I get turned on by rainbow hair

      • Pusswookie
        Posted February 4, 2014 at 6:40 am | Permalink

        But I’ve been waiting for so long to see that why did it have to be her Mom? Where was the Not Blood Related reveal when I finally needed it? It was so great too, with the squirming and the music and the rainbow hair ;_;

        And what did she mean Satsuki did well? Do all Kiryuuins go through a ceremonial fingering?
        Trigger and their backhanded fan service :/

  4. Ken
    Posted February 3, 2014 at 3:02 am | Permalink

    Did you notice the scars on Satsuki’s mothers back during the bath scene? Can that possibly be a sign that the life fibers once had to beat her into submission? Does anyone else have any theories about how she got them? … I’ll sit here and contemplate about this while Mako falls asleep in the chair next to me.

    • Scamp
      Posted February 3, 2014 at 9:54 pm | Permalink

      I’m sure they’ll come up with something, but I’m guessing they don’t actually know the answers themselves yet.

  5. Mr.RR
    Posted February 3, 2014 at 3:34 am | Permalink

    Well Ryuko and Ragyo both have under color hair (red and rainbow respectively) so I devised that her dad and Ragyo got lovey dovey while they worked together thus we have Ryuko(after all I don’t remember them mentioning her mother yet)

    • Ken
      Posted February 3, 2014 at 3:57 am | Permalink

      Wow if Ragyo ends up being Ryuko mom the drama will hit the fan.

      Don’t you get rainbow colored hair from eating too many Skittles?

    • Gan_HOPE326
      Posted February 3, 2014 at 9:10 am | Permalink

      Every time this theory pops up I can’t help but think about Professor Farnsworth and Mom.

    • Someone Else
      Posted February 3, 2014 at 9:56 am | Permalink

      Ragyo: Ryuke, I am your mother
      Ryuuko: NOOOOOO

      *Plays Imperial March*

    • Scamp
      Posted February 3, 2014 at 9:57 pm | Permalink

      They’re sisters. Twist

  6. luffyluffy
    Posted February 3, 2014 at 4:52 am | Permalink

    Hiroyuki Imaishi has confessed to being a MASSIVE fan of Getter Robo, and he incorporates a lot of themes from Getter in his works. The “Primordial Life Fiber” “forcing evolution” through “clothing” is just another concept on Getter Rays, which were also a driving force towards evolution. All the Getter machines were powered by Getter Rays, but Shin Getter Robo had such an incredible engine capacity that the collected rays literally forced the machine to evolve. It then became sentient and started to absorb it’s pilots and teach them the secrets of the universe and talking and stuff.

    The Primordial Life Fiber is clearly just another take on this idea. Imaishi did it before with Spiral Power, which is a lot clearer (both Getter Rays and Spiral Power glow green!)

    tl;dr Getter Robo is really really really really cool

    • Nagisa33
      Posted February 3, 2014 at 12:56 pm | Permalink

      For some reason Ragyo reminds me of Siren from Devilman (Probably because of the insane hair.) I have a feeling Ragyo’s hair might end up being a weapon or something.

      The reasoning behind all of this doesn’t surprise me that much, or rather I’ve seen something similar but in a different form. I wasn’t the only one who saw Getter Robo influences then. :) However, I thought the original Getter Robo manga was poo poo. I’ve always been meaning to give the series another try but there’s so many other series and the manga made me wary (and I’d prefer something short.) Any suggestions?

      Also, I’m surprised no one has any theories on that one scene. I suspect Ragyo made it so Satsuki can’t turn against her or something like that. It could just be a form of fan service for all I know. Also, maybe Ragyo once tried to fight against the clothes (like the Spiral King). She lost and that could explain the scars on her back.

      • brianwuzhere
        Posted February 3, 2014 at 6:24 pm | Permalink

        “That one scene” is just building off of the opening scene that shows that Satsuki doesn’t really have as much as control as she lets on. And if you paid attention to the OP, she is in a similarly submissive pose to demonstrate how Satsuki thinks she’s been working independently of her mother with Honnouji Academy, but really just doing exactly what Raygo wants her to all along. Not to mention, the threads binding her in the OP, as well as “that one scene”, suggest that she’s going to have a tough time breaking free from her mother’s control. This probably ties into the nakedness philosophy too, but I don’t really feel like digging into that right now.

      • luffyluffy
        Posted February 3, 2014 at 10:02 pm | Permalink

        But the original Getter manga is probably the best part :( Try to stick it out until the second part of the original, aka Getter Robo G. That’s the better half. You seem like the kind of person who’d really really enjoy Getter Robo Go, and the first two parts are exceedingly short. G is only 1 volume (like 7 chapters) long, so you should definitely give it a shot! The tone changes in G, becoming much darker. It also centers a lot on Hayato Jin, which is probably the best character in the whole series in terms of how much development he gets. He’s probably one of my top favorite characters of all time to be honest. Also the cool thing is, the Getter manga are all really short. The longest is only 7 volumes, that being Go, and the shortest are Shin and G, which are only 1 volume each. I read the whole thing in less than a week, so it’s definitely doable. I think the entire thing put together only has like 67 chapters.

        tl;dr give it another shot and try and make it to Go, but if you can’t stomach it, no sweat! Watch the three OVA’s if you haven’t already and you’ll get basically the same experience.

    • Scamp
      Posted February 3, 2014 at 9:58 pm | Permalink

      I should watch Getter Robo

      • luffyluffy
        Posted February 3, 2014 at 10:03 pm | Permalink

        Read the manga first, the anime is kinda ????? due to directorial shit and the fact that the director Jun Kawagoe does nothing but suck Ryouma’s cock constantly.

  7. JoeQ
    Posted February 3, 2014 at 7:56 am | Permalink

    Yeah, you definetily get the feeling that they’re just making things up at the spot and just hastily resolving earlier plot threads or just abandoning them. Remember how they hinted that Sanayegama’s new weakness would be his heightened senses and that would be how Ryuko’d beat him next time? Too bad they’ll propably never fight again.

    But at least Junketsu finally seems to be taking on a bigger role, been waiting for that.

    • Scamp
      Posted February 3, 2014 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

      Well yeah but everything with the elite 4 goes all over the place.

  8. Posted February 3, 2014 at 9:25 am | Permalink

    Yeah, Kill la Kill seems to be a wild trip for the writers as it is for the viewers. Every Thursday means more theorizing, and it always makes a rewarding experience. I would like to think there was a bit of foreshadowing, like seeing pigtails on Matoi’s killer in the first episode, but that’s the same logic people put into conspiracies. And that’s what it feels like whenever we write about the show, like we’re connecting random bits to make some grander picture in our own head.

  9. Someone Else
    Posted February 3, 2014 at 9:52 am | Permalink

    …And then Inferno Cop came in and defeated everyone with third destroy finale. Yeah I can totally see that

  10. shytende
    Posted February 3, 2014 at 10:21 am | Permalink

    I would really love if they decided to use Ryuuko’s newly awaken telepathic power to win a fight.

    Actually, when you think of it, Samurai Flamenco and Kill la Kill have a similar approach to storytelling, but while Samumenco tops itself and its conflict to insane level, KLK… just don’t care. They just have fun playing with anime tropes.
    And I really love it for that.

    It also reminds me of the kind of game you play when you’re a child (or horny teenager, in this case). This was clearly the case with Inferno Cop, but you still have this childlish wonders here.

  11. Di-Dorval
    Posted February 3, 2014 at 7:38 pm | Permalink

    Well the whole episode 12 was foreshadowed to hell. Every single part of that episode. Which is why many people were disapointed by how it went exaclty like the show already said it would.

    I hate the term terribad (because it sounds like someone unwilling to assume things he enjoys) and wouldnt apply it to Kill la Kill. The show dont throw random deus ex everywhere. Events makes sense in the context. The context being on the crazy side shouldnt matter for this. I personnaly find the show aptitude to links almost everything it does to its central theme to be pretty commendable.(the bath scene was about Ragyo forcing shame on her daughter to increase the need for cover which also helps understand where Sastsuki’s philosophy and ideals took roots)

    It display a very limited view of fiction in general when everything outside your comfort zone is dismissed has nonsense and ”terribad”. Stories arent random dices are.
    I found that the alien explanation was both unexpected and really fitting.

    • Gan_HOPE326
      Posted February 4, 2014 at 9:41 am | Permalink

      Well, surely this ain’t Sharknado. I think the idea here is similar to what was done with TTGL: take a main theme and run with it. Having a single theme (in this case, “clothing” both literal and as a metaphor) is a nice creativity catalyst, because it allows you to have a general guideline you can build your story around. After that, it’s fun with free associations. Clothing -> shame -> nudity -> original sin -> innocence… as such I think the whole ensemble will hardly be coherent at the end, but the single passages all make some sort of sense. It’s experimental but an excellent way to do a fun story. “Nonsense” is a genre after all, it’s not synonym of “bad”.
      And hey, people like Evangelion after all. And THAT PLOT certainly didn’t make a whole lot of sense (I like it too in many ways, mind you – this is not a flamestarter).

  12. Posted February 10, 2014 at 12:45 pm | Permalink

    Episode 4 actually foreshadowed Senketsu being cut up at the very beginning.

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