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  1. ZabiLegacy
    Posted July 20, 2013 at 9:40 pm | Permalink

    I’m not going to lie though. I was laughing my ass off at her “I’m here, I’m queer” speech. Up until that point I don’t think she’d been humanized at all, but that’s the first time we get a sense that for all of her infinite friendship well she just doesn’t like Sugane that much as a person.

    • Shinmaru
      Posted July 20, 2013 at 9:52 pm | Permalink

      Yeah, that’s part of why I’m not like, “awwwwwww fuck this girl” with Hajime right now. There’s a clear sense that the show is presenting her in the right (which is in a bit of danger of being pushed too far), but at the same time, she can still rub people the wrong way in amusing ways.

      • Zabi Legacy
        Posted July 21, 2013 at 12:47 am | Permalink

        The problem with her as near as I can see isn’t that’s quirky, it’s that she is a mary sue.

  2. Taka
    Posted July 20, 2013 at 10:28 pm | Permalink

    What’s problematic about the MPDG moniker for me is that I have seen nothing that indicates Sugane is the protagonist. I’m not sure if it’s something I can outright prove, besides citing his lack of focus in the OP and how everything happens TO him while Hajime is the cause of what happens. The problem is mainly that NONE of the main players are characters yet. They all are completely two dimensional. Hajime is the closest we have gotten to having an actual character. The problem is she seems completely incapable of normal communication. She’s all dokkan and chachiing and churururu with her Mr. Giraffe fucking bullshit.

    • Zabi Legacy
      Posted July 21, 2013 at 12:45 am | Permalink

      I can see this interpretation. By all logic she is the show’s only definite three dimensional character, however her mannerisms are so clouded with quirkiness that it’s difficult to see that.

  3. Posted July 20, 2013 at 11:36 pm | Permalink

    Hajime needs to be in every anime.

    She’s that fantastic.

  4. Maxlous
    Posted July 20, 2013 at 11:44 pm | Permalink

    So that’s why Hajime eerily reminds me of Zooey Deschanel.

  5. Embok
    Posted July 21, 2013 at 1:30 am | Permalink

    “he bristles when some rude youngster won’t give up his seat to an older woman.”

    Was that really a rude youngster though? The Dude in the first ep had a mask on, I figured he was sick. Then in Ep2, Hajime even pointed out “Hey, it’s possible the people not giving up their seats are tired, or sick”. It feels like Sugane does good things to let him feel good about doing them, rather than for the sake of doing good itself. This is why he always looks straight forward instead of trying to see the full picture – seeing the whole thing makes it harder to find an action that will allow him to prop up his ideal of a hero. Kinda like Shirou, I guess? I imagine she won’t be teaching him about “enjoy[ing] the beauty and wonder of life”, but to rethink the way he approaches his philanthropic efforts.

    …but yeah I expect Rui and Hajime’s first meeting is going to be when we really see what this show is aiming for.

    • Shinmaru
      Posted July 21, 2013 at 1:41 am | Permalink

      I mainly wrote that description from Sugane’s perspective. And to be fair to him, the evaluation of him as doing good things to feel good about doing them is from a biased perspective (though the show itself is definitely leaning the audience toward that interpretation even without Hajime).

  6. Lin
    Posted July 21, 2013 at 2:47 am | Permalink

    The “manic pixie dream girl” moniker doesn’t even make sense in this case because Hajime is the main protagonist of the series, and her main purpose isn’t to change others. That’s just a side-effect of her personality. Her actual role in this story is to be the hero who will confront the main antagonists, namely Rui and Berg Katse.

    • Shinmaru
      Posted July 21, 2013 at 2:59 am | Permalink

      That’s a fair point.

    • Maxlous
      Posted July 21, 2013 at 5:36 am | Permalink

      If the shoe fits…

      • Lin
        Posted July 21, 2013 at 6:11 am | Permalink

        But it doesn’t. That’s kinda the point.

      • Maxlous
        Posted July 21, 2013 at 6:30 am | Permalink

        Personality wise, yes, it does… that’s why she reminded me of Zooey Deschanel. Don’t give a damn about your trifle technicalities.

      • Lin
        Posted July 21, 2013 at 6:45 am | Permalink

        It’s not a technicality. It either fits the definition or it doesn’t. You can’t just choose only the part of the definition that suits your argument and ignore the rest.

      • Maxlous
        Posted July 21, 2013 at 7:06 am | Permalink

        How Shinmaru applied it here to describing the character’s development in this episode agrees with me. Who’s that girl? It’s Jess (Hajime)!

      • Lin
        Posted July 21, 2013 at 7:10 am | Permalink

        That’s besides the point. Now let’s move on.

  7. Zabi Legacy
    Posted July 21, 2013 at 3:29 am | Permalink
  8. Someone Else
    Posted July 21, 2013 at 7:53 am | Permalink

    I didn’t knew MPDG trope existed…

    OK let’s assume she really is an MPDG, but how about they try to be creative to her and give her a character development? Maybe I’m just going for the “It get’s better I swear” argument but considering how she’s actually the main protagonist (As Lin pointed out) there must be more beyond that. We’ve seen Psycho Pass’ Akane being somewhat MPDG at first to Kougami but she became moe to not moe, like Scamp says, best character development ever.

    BTW are you going to do an episodic review for this? I really wish one of the cart drivers will do it since I really like the show

    • Lin
      Posted July 21, 2013 at 8:50 am | Permalink

      If by “development” you mean change, I argue that she doesn’t need to. As far as I can tell she’s already a self-actualized person. She’s developed as an static character, yes, but there’s nothing wrong with statics characters. Eikichi Onizuka from GTO comes to mind. He was pretty similar to Hajime: an static main protagonist who was pretty eccentric but was already self-actualized, so he didn’t need to change. And just like Hajime, Onizuka inspired others to change and grow. To me, Hajime is basically a female Onizuka, not an MPDG.

      • Someone Else
        Posted July 21, 2013 at 11:37 am | Permalink

        Sorry, haven’t really seen GTO. OK the problem with static characters is that they can get boring after a while as Shinmaru says “It reduces a character purely to a catalyst, someone who exists mainly to change others” which I’m sure he implies that MPDG is a static character which is basically the problem of most MPDG.

        Let me use a simpler comparison with static characters in general, Nobita from the Very old anime Doraemon (I’m sure everyone here knows this) Ever since the oldest episode I can remember, Nobita (Or even every single cast there) has no character change at all even after hundred of episodes. It may be entertaining but that’s just me accepting their crazy antics. It also turned into something episodic, no plot development. It works for a slice of life show and everything but that’s not the case for Gatchaman Crowds. This thing here has a plot, a story to tell. Wouldn’t it be weird if the characters doesn’t change at all to the situations given to them? There’s drama and philosophies here, considering how she’s now a super hero rather than your ordinary school girl. (Or a magical girl maybe?)

        Hajime as MPDG can change others, but what if the others change her as well? And in a unique way? Change creates possibilities that makes things exciting. Which I am hoping for in this show

      • Shinmaru
        Posted July 21, 2013 at 2:25 pm | Permalink

        Regarding Lin’s point, I actually agree that there’s nothing inherently wrong with being a static character, and being the catalyst can obviously be interesting if the disruption is done in interesting ways. I don’t think the whole collage thing was really that interesting at all, but Hajime breaching the gap at the headquarters and kicking it with JJ shook things up in an interesting way. So I’d say the show has at least demonstrated there’s room for Hajime to shake things up in entertaining ways.

      • Someone Else
        Posted July 21, 2013 at 3:49 pm | Permalink

        Eh, oh well I guess everyone has different opinions about the matter. My thoughts won’t change though but I guess I’ll try to see which one is right.

        It get’s better I…think

  9. Josh
    Posted July 21, 2013 at 9:52 am | Permalink

    I would argue to problem #2 that while Sugane might be the primary target of the shift in viewpoints brought about by Hajime’s character, in actuality it’s the entire Gatchaman organization. We’ve also seen Pai regularly chew Hajime out for not blindly following orders. This disrupting culture shift was most evident for me during Hajime’s “leap of faith” in JJ’s room. Just like with MESS being a dangerous being that needed to be physically subdued, the rest of the Gatchaman team seems to blindly accept that the gap in the room is an endless freefall until Hajime proves them wrong.

    • Shinmaru
      Posted July 21, 2013 at 2:31 pm | Permalink

      Yeah, definitely true. I wonder if the other characters will get their time in the spotlight, or if they’ll mostly change around the peripherals?

      • Josh
        Posted July 21, 2013 at 4:17 pm | Permalink

        Well, it’s only a single cour, but I think that’s enough time for each of the side team members to have their own episode devoted to learning their backstory and Hajime pulling them out of their funk. That’d still leave about half the season to devote to fighting the big bad.

  10. Leah
    Posted July 21, 2013 at 11:40 am | Permalink

    What I found interesting this episode is the implication that Paiman probably lost his home planet in some way, which is why he decorates his room with panda plushies while drinking tons of alcohol to drown his sorrows and pretend all his friends and family are alive and living in his room.

    To stop that from happening again, he keeps charging against anything possibly dangerous, without realizing that not everything has to be the evil enemy.
    But eh, I’m probably the only one who cares about the little guy.

    • Shinmaru
      Posted July 21, 2013 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

      Ooh, somehow I didn’t catch that. That’s an interesting way to look at it. I’ll have to keep an eye out for that in subsequent episodes.

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