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Fractale episode 5

Anime needs more dancing, so thank you Yamakan and your insistence on putting dance scenes into almost every anime you work on. Black Rock Shooter would have been much better if there was dancing. The dancing in Fractale is a bit on the blobby side, with the animation hardly being top tier. It certainly pales in comparison to the CGI dancing in the Suite Precure ending song…oh crap, I think I might have revealed that I’m watching Suite Precure. Quick, talk about Fractale more to distract readers attention away from the fact I watch fluffy magical girl anime.

Two middle aged ladies force-stripping down an underage boy to ogle at his unusual yet revealing underwear, followed by a later scene where they force him into a alternate coloured version. All fun and games, until you take the viewpoint of “what would it be like if this anime was genderswapped“. Two muscley middle-aged men grabbing hold of a young girl, stripping her down to reveal some sexy underwear and then taking even that off so they can put on another pair that they prefer the look of. Not so funny now eh?

The sex jokes in general are starting to get on my nerves. I rolled with them originally because the show felt like it was trying to play up Clain’s lack of real life interaction with women. But that aspect has been steadily falling by the wayside as the series goes on while the pervert jokes remain as consistent as ever. It’s appearing more and more like the creators simply don’t know how to make a joke that isn’t about being a pervert. Saying “you are a pervert ewww” or showing someone taking off their clothes isn’t funny by itself, yet Fractale sets up these scenes as though they’re supposed to be funny. The above shota rape + crotch shot, as slightly unsettling as it may have been to genderswap, was actually funny because it worked with Clain’s obsession with old stuff. Just saying “you are a pervert” over and over again isn’t funny. Stop it Fractale, or at least do something with this pervertedness.

This episode was about Clain, Phryne and Nessa all becoming good friends with the people on the ship. Does that mean Fractale is now advocating a healthy relationship between the new and the old? Nessa representing the Fractale new system becoming friends with the folk who rigidly stick to pre 25th century technology. If that’s the case, I would be fully behind such a story. Love crossing all boundaries, I’ve always been a sap for those sort of stories. But it needs to bring these elements together to form a more coherent story. There’s certainly the bones of a good story for the making here, but they haven’t tied the elements together well at all.

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35 Comments

  1. Posted February 20, 2011 at 12:20 pm | Permalink

    Soooooo….. is Suite Precure any good?
    I really liked Heartcatch. It was really pretty.

    …. what happened to you, Scamp? I thought you hated magical girls and girls being insufferably nice to each other? Maybe you will now agree with me on shoujo or start reading yuri. :D
    Nawww, that will never happen.

    By the way, I’m just reading a yuri manga named Blue Friend, and it’s gooood stuff. If you want to check it out…

    • Posted February 20, 2011 at 6:11 pm | Permalink

      Secretly he loves moe.

      We’ve known this all along.

    • Scamp
      Posted February 20, 2011 at 9:00 pm | Permalink

      The girls aren’t being insufferably nice to each other in Suite Precure. They’re too busy doing bitchin’ transformation sequences and CGI dance routines to bother with such trivialities.

      So nope, I haven’t changed my tastes =D

      …but seriously, don’t tell anyone I’m watching Precure

      • Posted February 22, 2011 at 4:30 am | Permalink

        .. And what’s wrong with liking Pretty Cure? Oh, yeah, blog/blogger reputation. :P

  2. Posted February 20, 2011 at 1:20 pm | Permalink

    The “ecchi” jokes is definitely stale at this point, and the rest of the comedy is rather lacking too. Yamakan obviously isn’t feeling too creative with his jokes.

    I honestly feel like this episode more focused on developing Phyrne than anything else. Although her erratic actions tend to get annoying at times, Phyrne’s eventual acceptance of the “Hide-and-seek-while-causing-chaos” Nessa was….nice and happy, for lack of me being able to not think of a less generic description =.=;

    On a side note, after watching the first episode of Suite Precure, fluffy magical girl anime sounds about right. It sounds like you should start watching stuff like Shugo Chara; more magical girl fluffiness could never hurt :D

    • Scamp
      Posted February 20, 2011 at 9:03 pm | Permalink

      Yamakan can do jokes though. Kannagi was funny, and not just because of the manga. His directorial ability did shine through there in the delivery of the jokes. I have other problems with Kannagi, but the delivery of the jokes was what it was best at.

      I still don’t like fluffiness. Just bitchin’ transformation sequences. Does Shugo Chara have them? If so, then I’m all aboard

      • Posted February 21, 2011 at 1:20 am | Permalink

        Kannagi did have it’s moments of hilarity. It’s a shame Yamakan can’t seem to do the same here, though I guess it just has to do with the source material in question.

        As for Shugo Chara, from what I remember it’s standard generic Magical girl transformations, complete with fluffiness and rainbows, so it probably won’t be your type of show. :P

      • Posted February 21, 2011 at 10:18 am | Permalink

        Watch Heartcatch.

      • Posted February 21, 2011 at 1:11 pm | Permalink

        Shugo Chara had 548697 different character transformations though so yeah it can’t really be helped.

        Suite Precure’s transformations are awesome (especially the musiiiiiiiiiic), but they have so little…action. I like Go! Go!’s best. (ESPECIALLY LEMONADE’S.)

        Maybe you should watch Heartcatch after all because Sunshine’s is amazing.

  3. luffyluffy
    Posted February 20, 2011 at 3:12 pm | Permalink

    SAVING ANIME ONE SHOUTA CROTCH AT A TIME

    I mean really, stop blogging this shit and go blog Madoka

    • Posted February 20, 2011 at 5:11 pm | Permalink

      His OreImo posts were at least hilarious… but there’s nothing really to say about Fractale.
      It’s not even so bad it’s good.

    • OHEMGEE
      Posted February 20, 2011 at 6:37 pm | Permalink

      Ah, if he started Madoka..
      Well, I sure would enjoy reading those, for lack of words to describe how excited i’d be if he did.

    • Scamp
      Posted February 20, 2011 at 9:04 pm | Permalink

      Can’t blog Madoka, there’s already been 7 episodes. I didn’t really hit a good set of series to blog this season, with Bakuman and this. You’ll just have to do with more old OVA’s

      • luffyluffy
        Posted February 20, 2011 at 10:17 pm | Permalink

        Do a batch-blog of episodes 1 through 7 and then do a weekly for 8 – 12

      • Posted February 21, 2011 at 4:47 am | Permalink

        Everyone and their mom’s cat blogs Madoka though…

      • luffyluffy
        Posted February 21, 2011 at 4:58 am | Permalink

        Oh, but Scamp-kun would make it even better~

  4. OHEMGEE
    Posted February 20, 2011 at 3:24 pm | Permalink

    Ah the whole highlight of that was the Suite Precure bit x)

    “Two muscley middle-aged men grabbing hold of a young girl, strip­ping her down to reveal some sexy under­wear and then tak­ing even that off so they can put on another pair that they prefer the look of”
    <- I can dig it ;D

    • Scamp
      Posted February 20, 2011 at 9:05 pm | Permalink

      Just wait until you see the transformation sequences. They are the reason I watch the show

      • OHEMGEE
        Posted February 21, 2011 at 6:26 pm | Permalink

        Ah man. There should be laws against enjoying a transformation sequence so darn much XD

  5. Yup
    Posted February 20, 2011 at 5:44 pm | Permalink

    Fractale of Winter is the Kuragehime of the last season. Starts out promising and all, but gets repetative after a short while. At least for me, you seemed to like Kuragehime. The moe factor of this show clearly doesn’t help, either.

    • Scamp
      Posted February 20, 2011 at 9:06 pm | Permalink

      Kuragehime’s ending was dreadful and that really dropped it down in my ratings. However prior to that it was top 30 material, so ultimately I still like the show a lot. But I’m biased because Josei is awesome

      • luffyluffy
        Posted February 20, 2011 at 10:16 pm | Permalink

        Is that Benz guy? I like Benz guy.

  6. Posted February 20, 2011 at 6:07 pm | Permalink

    For me, it didn’t need to be genderswapped. I was still really disturbed, bothered, and upset by the scene.

    I didn’t like this episode at all. The dancing man was the only thing that I enjoyed.

    • Scamp
      Posted February 20, 2011 at 9:07 pm | Permalink

      Again, I think people go overboard with the Fractale hate. I still sorta enjoyed the episode. It’s just getting a hard time because Noitamina + ambitions. As far as big names failing, at least it’s better than friggen Gosick

      • Posted February 20, 2011 at 10:52 pm | Permalink

        I feel misunderstood. :(

        Mainly why I didn’t live this episode was loincoth/pervert joke/Nessa felt ooc to me. Up to this point, I’ve at least enjoyed the episodes, but I just didn’t like this one. But I really like Nessa, I really like Enri.
        Fractle’s main problem is it’s doing too many things and failing to focus on one thing.

        But, um, if you want to talk about hate, ask me about Infinite Stratos.

  7. Posted February 21, 2011 at 7:49 am | Permalink

    geh, this episode felt like filler. um, hi guys, what about that plot we’re all wondering about :D we only have a few episodes, after all, to solve this whole dystopian world thing, right? sadly im starting to care less and less about this show ;/

    and dude, boy being stripped = not cool. i get the feeling that it’s supposed to be funny, buuut im too politically correct for that, i guess. both scenes disturbed me heavily @_@

  8. Anonymous
    Posted February 22, 2011 at 11:48 pm | Permalink

    Article:Two middle aged ladies force-stripping down an underage boy to ogle at his unusual yet revealing underwear, followed by a later scene where they force him into a alternate coloured version. All fun and games, until you take the view­point of “what would it be like if this anime was gender­swapped”. Two muscley middle-aged men grabbing hold of a young girl, stripping her down to reveal some sexy underwear and then taking even that off so they can put on another pair that they prefer the look of. Not so funny now eh?

    This comment in your article is so misleading it is just criminal, and makes one wonder if you’re not just trying to see things that aren’t there just to complain about it, or that if you are like Clain, an incredibly prude child who sees the most perverse where none is (at least Clain has the excuse of being made by the Japanese).
    The two women, both likely mothers, were doing the laundry and told Clain to change out of his pants. These were supposedly dirty. This is perfectly normal in real life and there is nothing sexual about it. After all, women do the laundry and dress the kids, such is our culture. The point of the scene was to show again that people in Fractale no longer live in small tight-knit communities, like a family (which is what the entire show is about, partially). This is why Clain, the prude, freaked out when he was told to change out of his pants. You can take note that during the scene the camera zooms in closely upon Clain as a person, leaving no room for the environment or other characters, and his reaction to the innocent comment, meaning we are now looking through his eyes at this ordeal resulting in that brief moment thrusting a hint of malicious intent onto the two women when all they did was being practical. Dealing with the prudish child that doesn’t know how to behave in that situation. Then comes the joke that history nerd Clain decided to wear some unusual, and old-styled, underwear.
    Now if we were to change Clain’s gender in the scene there would still not be anything weird, unusual or sexual about the scene (in Fractale context, not in the meta-context where it’s still just basic fan-service for the viewer). We would see a girl carrying a large basket of laundry, helping with hanging it up and then getting told her dress was dirty and that she should change out of it. Awkwardness ensues, dress gets removed, after which we would be left with a girl standing in bloomers and a camisole (not sexy underwear for the meta-context), or some other equivalent unusual old-styled underwear seeing as Phryne has been flaunting her camisole or bloomers on screen at least once in every episode now.
    Changing the gender of the two adults would make the scene weird, not because of anything sexual, but because men don’t do the laundry. Because men don’t do the laundry showing two men then taking off a girl’s dress gets associated by the public eye as sexual harassment. Equating that to doing the laundry is preposterous and just makes clear that: “YES, swapping genders does make for some unintended disturbing moments because of gender roles.” If you want to use your “OMG THIS WOULD BE FUCKED UP IF YOU ONLY SWAPPED THEIR GENDERS”-argument anywhere, don’t pick scenes that heavily rely on an accepted and set gender roles because that gets fucked up results 9 times out of 10. Also it’s a shitty argument since gender is a huge aspect of characters and their interactions.
    The scene at the end where they give him different coloured underwear is just a joke and the women probably do it just to tease Clain.
    Over-analysing is an art.

    • Posted February 24, 2011 at 3:20 am | Permalink

      um, yes, go ahead and let strange women strip your children of their clothes and call their thongs cute and strip them of those too. i’m sure you’ll believe it’s all good fun and humor and the other kids don’t know what they’re missing.

      and while gender has everything to do with the scene, gender roles have absolutely nothing to do with anything and is just a ridiculous point to bring up anyways. so what if fractale men don’t do laundry. the point is if a man had to strip a young girl for any reason at all, practical or not, we all might be interpreting the scene in a much different manner.

      i just hope im not being trolled, lol. if so then *tips hat*

      • Anonymous
        Posted February 24, 2011 at 9:08 pm | Permalink

        You’re not being trolled, you don’t appear pissed off and pissing people off wasn’t my intention. You’re just severely misunderstanding what I said. I explained why the ham-fisted comment about that scene being horrible was a stupid comment to make. Yes, two men forcefully stripping a girl down to her super-sexy and revealing lattice-worked underwear is a very disturbing mental image, but that’s because you stripped every aspect that’s important from the scene and phrased it to suggest rape. That’s little different from whenever hentai pops up on such news channels as Foxnews, decrying that everything animated outside of the US is disgusting porn made just to turn your precious little 5 year-olds into Christian-/mother country-hating degenerates. That do drugs. And killed John F. Kennedy.
        The scene, as is, works, and is harmless, precisely because of gender roles. Give an argument if you wish to contend that and don’t just brush it aside. It looks shoddy.
        As for your first comment: I would not at all mind if a family my child imposed himself on takes care off him as if he was part of said family. Which includes dressing him.

      • Posted February 26, 2011 at 6:52 am | Permalink

        well then i guess i’ll call cultural differences on this one. if such a thing happened here anyone of any gender would be arrested instantly. perhaps even parents themselves, in some situations. excuse me for my politically correct point of view. i guess in other places the laws are not as stringent. (lol that you bring up fox news; they’re supporting the GOP in their endeavor to make rape laws LESS stringent, good lord.)

        sorry that i seemed to have “brushed aside” your gender role argument; i just couldn’t take it even seriously enough to think of something to say aside from “lolwut tangent”. i do believe scamp’s genderswap situation was hypothetical sans the whole “OMG BUT MEN ARE BAD AT LAUNDRY” argument. ok, how’s this: IF fractale men did laundry and IF they tore off a female clain’s pants to see her underroos, would we see the scene differently? maybe. depending on how you felt during the scene, i guess. *shrugs*

        and as for your last comment….um….im sure clain is old enough to dress himself unless he had a stroke sometime before the laundry scene, but…good for you :D

      • Anonymous
        Posted February 26, 2011 at 9:04 pm | Permalink

        my polit­ic­ally cor­rect point of view.

        Is it politically correct to say, enforce a female employee quotum? Is it politically correct to use a specially designated word to refer to a person, or a group of people? Or is it condescending? Political correctness is a buzzword for the majority to feel good and caring. The correct thing to do in all cases would be to ask the person, or people, in question, individually.

        “OMG BUT MEN ARE BAD AT LAUNDRY”

        I didn’t say that. I said that in the public eye, men do not do laundry. That doesn’t mean they don’t do laundry, it’s that they aren’t expected to do the laundry, women are expected to do the laundry.

        ok, how’s this: IF fractale men did laun­dry and IF they tore off a female clain’s pants to see her under­roos, would we see the scene dif­fer­ently?

        Yes, we would see that differently, mainly because the entire scene is changed. The goal of the two women was not to observe his underwear. They wanted him to change his pants.

        im sure clain is old enough to dress him­self

        Sure he can, but he wasn’t really cooperating at all. So some practical actions were taken. Hold the boy, take his pants and give him a new pair to change in to. They wouldn’t have bothered with the scene being so long is it wasn’t for the fact that Clain is a history nerd resulting in a joke. And I’ve nothing to say about the short comment at the end where they change his loincloth other than the two women just teasing him. That’s only there because of JAPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!

      • Posted February 27, 2011 at 8:42 am | Permalink

        i don’t mean politically correct in that what i’m saying is correct in terms of the law, per se, simply that i’m one of those people with annoying tendencies to rain on some humor’s parade with an “IM OFFENDED” tirade :D to have someone challenge my feelings on what i perceived on screen as borderline rape in my own personal definition is disconcerting. yes, i’m going to be miffed and ruffled. sorry folks XD

        i do hope your laundry gender role is only as specified by fractale rules or perhaps your own society. it’s what i was trying to say initially. while obviously it’s wrong to assume that no men do laundry, it’s also wrong to assume that most men do not do laundry nor are they expected to in every part of the world. i don’t know a male soul who does not do his own laundry in college. unless he commutes, maybe.

        and while initial intentions of the women were simply to change clain, you can’t deny that they became quite interested in his draws after they saw them. enough to suggest and implement a change in color. i mean, i don’t care if everyone else thinks it’s funny, but all i have to say is “wow, japan, wooowwwww”

        (can you tell im bored? bwahahahaha~)

    • Scamp
      Posted February 24, 2011 at 9:16 pm | Permalink

      Eh, for the record, I didn’t find the scene disturbing in the slightest. It was only going back over the episode did the thought at how genderswapping the scene would make it take on an entirely different light. If anything, I was trying to draw attention to how much gender matters.

      Mainly though, I was just making a joke…

      • Anonymous
        Posted February 26, 2011 at 8:40 pm | Permalink

        Mainly though, I was just mak­ing a joke…

        We both were. I wouldn’t bother writing that much if I didn’t have some fun. The same reason applies to why I keep reading your posts! Huzzah!

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