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Drop your prejudice for sports anime and actually watch some

Sports anime? No thank you!

This upcom­ing spring anime sea­son is an inter­est­ing one for a bunch of reas­ons, the most not­able of which being the rather unusual short­age of moe titles. How­ever one thing that many people have com­men­ted on is the rather large num­ber of sports anime this sea­son. Giant Killing, another sea­son of Major, Big Win­dup 2 (or Ooky­booky Fooky­booky or whatever it’s wee­aboo name is) and some second sea­son to a box­ing anime that nobody has ever heard of. And yet again we get the stand­ard reac­tion of dis­in­terest because it’s a sports anime, des­pite the fact that barely any­one has actu­ally watched any sports anime.

The altern­at­ive reac­tion usu­ally goes some­thing along the lines of “I don’t like sports anime, except Cross Game” when Cross Game is the only sports anime they’ve watched. There’s an auto­matic reac­tion amongst anime fans that they won’t like it because it involves sports, an assump­tion often based off little to no exper­i­ence with the genre. What’s more bizarre is the people who fall into the ‘hate sports anime bar X’ cat­egory have often only watched that single title out of the genre. And yet with a 100% record suc­cess with the sports genre they still black­list every sports anime. Most people tend to place this upon the fact that the major­ity of anime fans are nerds who do not like sports, which is a pretty fair assump­tion to make. How­ever even people who do like both sports and anime seem to be oddly put off by the sports genre, again hav­ing their dis­like for sports anime foun­ded on next to nothing.

The point of this post is to ask people could you please drop your ridicu­lous pre­ju­dice towards sports anime and actu­ally watch some. Hajime no Ippo has been con­sist­ently ranked as one of the greatest anime of all time and yet sur­pris­ingly few people have even con­sidered watch­ing it. In all my time trawl­ing across sea­son pre­views, I think I’ve only seen one per­son who even men­tioned that they even tried to watch Major, des­pite seem­ingly hav­ing a new sea­son every year. I per­son­ally will sing praises of One Outs until the cows come home (or altern­at­ively, in some more people actu­ally watched that show). I’ll admit a per­sonal amount of reluct­ance to start the likes of Hajime no Ippo and Eye­shield 21, another extremely highly rated sports anime, due to the length of them, but I will not dis­miss them because they are sports anime.

I’m not say­ing sports anime are fant­astic or any­thing. For every action-packed romp like One Outs, there’s a bore­fest like Taisho Base­ball Girls (although I think I might be the minor­ity on that one). For every piece of intel­li­gently writ­ten work like Cross Game, there’s a steam­ing pile of retarded­ness like Basquash. But is that any dif­fer­ent from any other genre of anime? For every Gur­ren Lagann there’s a Line­barrels of Iron. For every Kan­nagi there’s an Akikan. For that reason the only thing you can do is actu­ally watch the stuff that’s well rated. Take your com­rades word for once and actu­ally watch the show. Now let me do a full circle here and return to next sea­son. In my usual trawl­ing of the inter­net to find review of the manga that the upcom­ing anime are based off, I have yet to find a single per­son who does not praise Giant Killing. Now I have also heard that there was appar­ently some sort of dis­agree­ment between Stu­dio Deen and the mangaka so big­ging up this anime might come back to haunt me, but for gods sake, do not dis­miss it because it is a sports anime. Because ask your­self, how many have you actu­ally watched to base this dis­like off?

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27 Comments

  1. Posted March 24, 2010 at 11:24 pm | Permalink

    Yes, Taisho was pretty awe­some mostly because it was an exer­cise in Girl power, which is some­thing I can def­in­itely approve of. One Outs is pretty weak for a base­ball anime, except that it’s the char­ac­ters which made it awe­some. The battles between Toua and OHHHHNUHHHH were hilarious.

    I think the stigma for sports anime star­ted around Prince of Ten­nis because of its length, but I might be wrong on that.

  2. Posted March 24, 2010 at 11:25 pm | Permalink

    I’ve watched some sports anime in my life. I have yet to watch one that I’ve des­pised. Except the Eng­lish ver­sion of Eyeshield21, which cracks me up every time I watch the first epis­ode. And the OP is so bad…XD

    I’ve found that it requires a cer­tain mood to feel like watch­ing sports anime, and if I’m not in that mood, it can be a chal­lenge. Not to men­tion my nor­mal anime watch­ing issues. orz

    If Giant Killing is good, it’s good, but I don’t think any sports anime will be able to just break from the mold and be ~awe­some~ to a vast amount of people.

  3. Posted March 24, 2010 at 11:34 pm | Permalink

    I do plan to watch Giant Killing. At least check is out.

    And I picked up Prin­cess Nine from my lib­rary this week. Def­in­itely excited about that.

  4. Posted March 24, 2010 at 11:37 pm | Permalink

    I’m all on board the Giant Killing train for this sea­son — I’m even think­ing about blog­ging it. Depends on how it looks early, of course, but there you go. Helps that I got a bet­ter appre­ci­ation for soc­cer foot­ball while cov­er­ing it in col­lege, and that the series is appar­ently going to be 26 epis­odes instead of stretch­ing on forever.

    I need to watch Hajime no Ippo some time. Box­ing always struck as a sport that trans­lates well to fic­tion. It’s a one-on-one sport, so it’s simple to find a focus, and it’s intense as well. Base­ball might be the sport of poets — as we Amer­ic­ans so love to claim :p — but give me a good box­ing story any day.

  5. Posted March 24, 2010 at 11:47 pm | Permalink

    Actu­ally, every ath­letic per­son I know likes sports anime fine (shrug)

    Most people I know who don’t watch sports anime simply don’t care about sports. So it’s like… you already don’t care at all about half the series’ con­tent right there, so why bother? Yeah, it could be really good, but like you’ve writ­ten in a post before try­ing out a bunch of series just for that minus­cule chance that you’ll come across a homerun tends to be a waste of time; espe­cially when you do it in a genre where you don’t even have a fall­back on, that some­thing else you can at least enjoy even if you don’t like the other parts.

    Of course, if a sports anime is try­ing to sell itself as some­thing more than just pure sports that’s a whole dif­fer­ent mat­ter. I picked up Yakyuu Taishou Musume for its his­tor­ical set­ting, and I checked out Basquash because the idea of giant-robo-basketball is just… ridicu­lous. But frankly a lot of Sports anime fails to sell itself as more than just “sports”, and genre-crossing can do this cat­egory a whole realm of good.

  6. Posted March 25, 2010 at 12:12 am | Permalink

    Yeah, like Aorii is say­ing, I fall in that third group of people who don’t watch sports anime because they don’t watch sports. That said, I looked into Giant Killing because of the art style. Then I looked into the manga because of the lead role. Now I’m look­ing into the anime because I enjoyed the first chapter. If the anime doesn’t work out, I’ll just go back to the manga, but either way, I want to ride out this one.

  7. Posted March 25, 2010 at 12:48 am | Permalink

    The sports genre on aver­age has treated me a lot bet­ter than most anime genres. For one, I will watch any­thing in tour­na­ment format. Any­thing. Also, sports inher­ently comes with action, strategy, sus­pense, and drama. Throw­ing good char­ac­ters and com­edy into the mix usu­ally isn’t too hard either.

  8. Posted March 25, 2010 at 1:02 am | Permalink

    I’ve been mean­ing to make this post myself, actu­ally. Every time I read ‘I’m not inter­ested in sports, but I liked this manga’ I think ‘did you people for­get that you are, in fact, READING MANGA?!’ I’m not really inter­ested in being a doc­tor, that doesn’t make Mon­ster suck. I’m not inter­ested in being in a biker gang, that doesn’t make Akira suck. Le sigh.…

  9. Posted March 25, 2010 at 1:19 am | Permalink

    Actu­ally, you’re look­ing at it a little wrong Digit­al­boy. It’s not “I’m not inter­ested in being a doc­tor,” rather it’s “I’m not inter­ested in med­ical dra­mas.” It’s the genre rather than the ele­ment. To some extent, a per­son who has no interest House, ER, and Grey’s Ana­tomy would have decent jus­ti­fic­a­tion for not watch­ing Mon­ster. In the same vein, someone who lacks interest in base­ball, bas­ket­ball, or foot­ball, would have decent jus­ti­fic­a­tion for not watch­ing Cross Game.

    Of course, it’d be great for every­one to broaden their hori­zons a bit, and that’s what I’ve been try­ing to do this year.

  10. Posted March 25, 2010 at 1:28 am | Permalink

    I gen­er­ally only like the sports anime that aren’t the over­done ones. Or ones that aren’t even really con­sidered sports (Go, Mahjong)

    I did enjoy One Outs though but every other base­ball anime I have watched was a snore fest. Hell one outs was even pretty bor­ing but the char­ac­ters were awe­some so it made it enjoy­able for me.

    I will get around to Hajime no Ippo, and Slam Dunk one day though. I have no interest in the sports but they seem to be ones that every anime fan should watch. Espe­cially in Hajime no Ippo’s case. my best friend has been nag­ging me to watch that for years heh

    Someone needs to make a hockey anime XD

  11. Posted March 25, 2010 at 1:36 am | Permalink

    To some extent, a per­son who has no interest House, ER, and Grey’s Ana­tomy would have decent jus­ti­fic­a­tion for not watch­ing Monster.”

    Well, not really, since Mon­ster isn’t a med­ical drama at all. :p

  12. PanTh3R
    Posted March 25, 2010 at 2:02 am | Permalink

    WhaT?!? every­one has to watch Hajime no Ippo one of the GREATEST anime ever in my opin­ion, and Major was also really good. Both were awe­some anime and i cant wait till the new Major sea­son airs and when they start with the new Hajime no Ippo sea­son too!!!

  13. Posted March 25, 2010 at 2:34 am | Permalink

    Thank you, thank you, thank you for this post! The most import­ant thing to remem­ber about sports anime is that it’s the char­ac­ter­iz­a­tion that’s the most import­ant, not the sport itself. If you end up caring about the char­ac­ters, it doesn’t mat­ter if you like the sport that they’re play­ing. I could care less about kendo, but I thought Bam­boo Blade was funny and enter­tain­ing. I hate watch­ing box­ing, but Hajime no Ippo was fascinating.

    Per­son­ally my favor­ite all time sports anime (and one of my favor­ite anime in gen­eral) is Touch, which if you can get over the 80s anim­a­tion style, is a won­der­ful series. If people like Cross Game, they may also like Touch, as they’re both based on manga by the same mangaka.

    I am also look­ing for­ward to Giant Killing.

  14. Posted March 25, 2010 at 2:53 am | Permalink

    I am not a sports fan, never have been. I didn’t play sports in school. I don’t watch actual sports, and have no interest in sports movies. I have, how­ever watched sev­eral sports anime, namely: Prin­cess 9, Big Win­dup, and Hajime no Ippo. In fact, as a kid I watched Speed Racer religiously.

    Des­pite that, I don’t think I’ll bother watch­ing any of the sports genre shows this Spring. As far as Big Win­dup sea­son 2 goes, I would rather mara­thon it, if I see it at all. I have heard some good things about Giant Killing, par­tic­u­larly that it emphas­izes strategy, which sounds intriguing, but, unless I drop enough other shows, or if I hear from blog­gers, such as your­self, that it was bril­liant, I’m just not gonna bother.

  15. Posted March 25, 2010 at 5:24 am | Permalink

    To reit­er­ate what Baka-Raptor said:

    TOURNAMENT FORMAT IS AWESOME.

    Now with that said, I always say that I hate sports/mecha anime, but I like every­one I see? I guess I ignore myself. I should watch more sports anime.

    Then again, I’ve seen, what, three shows in each genre? If that. A small sample size but a sample size none the less.

  16. Vanessa
    Posted March 25, 2010 at 12:55 pm | Permalink

    I think it’s just very sub­ject­ive, like all tastes in anime are. I used to hate the idea of sports anime until I got into Prince Of Ten­nis. People still have this stigma in their mind that ‘oh crap, it’s an annoy­ing kid WHO WANTS TO BE THE BEST and will spend long epis­odes train­ing, then tournament-tournament-tournament-tournament… oh dear there’s an enemy who’s a bit stronger than me, who I’ll beat anyway’.

    But, there is quite a lot of fant­astic char­ac­ter devel­op­ment in anime. Prince Of Ten­nis isn’t just good-looking guys play­ing ten­nis. The team is made up of a really-hard-pushed kid, a mis­un­der­stood guy, a cheery but quiet guy, a cheery gym­nastic guy, cheery gym­nastic guy’s kind best friend, an aver­age guy who tries his best, and the team cap­tain who has an ang­sty backstory.

    And Eye­shield 21 is just hil­ari­ous. :‘D

  17. Scamp
    Posted March 25, 2010 at 4:01 pm | Permalink

    @zzeroparticle

    Length is a big prob­lem with most sports anime. When you think of the big names, such as eye­shield 21 and Hajime, both are over 50 epis­odes long. I suf­fer from ser­i­ous aller­gic reac­tions to any num­ber over 40

    @mefloraine

    When Hajime no Ippo ranks in the top 10 anime of all time on MAL even after air­ing sev­eral years ago, I think that counts as break­ing the mold and every­one think­ing it’s awesome

    @Janette

    I looked up Prin­cess 9 and only found Prin­cess 69

    @Shinmaru

    Noes, I was gonna blog it, don’t you go steal­ing ma read­ers again!!!

    jk~ I need to prac­tice what I preach and watch Hajime no Ippo myself. Box­ing is an unbe­liev­ably dull sport to watch IRL but I see what you mean by it work­ing in screen­play format.

    Err…now there’s a bunch of these com­ments that sorta answer each other. @Aorii and @Rakuen I can answer you by tak­ing Digit­al­boys ver­sion and say­ing that not watch­ing sports anime because you don’t like sports is like not watch­ing Hos­pital dra­mas because you don’t like medi­cine and first aid (Mon­ster, as Shin­maru says, is a bad example). What AJthefourth said is true, it’s about the char­ac­ter­isa­tion far more than the sport itself. It’s like say­ing you don’t like rock music so you won’t watch Beck. While there may be added enjoy­ment if you do like the sub­ject mat­ter, char­ac­ter­isa­tion is what drives any­thing. If you took that thought pro­cess into account then nobody would have ever watched Hikaru no Go. So no Rak­uen, your ana­logy doesn’t work. Say­ing ‘I don’t like med­ical dra­mas’ is a dir­ect ref­er­ence to the type of show it is, some­thing you can­not base your dis­like of unless you’ve watched some. Which is the exact same as sports anime, which is the exact point I’m try­ing to put across here. Heck, you’ve read Giant Killing and liked it but are you still going to think you dis­like sports anime?

    @Baka-Raptor

    Actu­ally my sports genre con­ver­sion rate hasn’t been great. Asides from those I men­tioned in the post, I’m watch­ing Big Win­dup but I can’t get into it and I’ve also had a brief dip into the Prince of Ten­nis manga, which is the single worst manga I’ve read in my life. That’s only a 2/6 con­ver­sion rate.

    @chii

    My board game anime con­sump­tion has been lim­ited to read­ing and mod­er­ately enjoy­ing the first two Hikaru no Go manga and drop­ping Saki after one epis­ode. My the thing about them is I can’t fol­low what’s going on so I feel kinda stu­pid while other char­ac­ters say ‘oh, what a great move!’

    @PanTh3R

    Another Hajime no Ippo rec­comend­a­tion, must get around to that one day

    @AJtheFourth

    What’s stop­pind me start­ing Touch is that it’s appar­ently the EXACT SAME as Cross Game. Second hand info from manga fan­at­ics tell me that every Ada­chi manga, while very good, are exactly the same. I need a long break from Cross Game before I start Touch

    @Joojoobees

    Yeah I’m a bit wary of big­ging up Giant Killing. The manga reviews are fant­astic but a com­bin­a­tion of in-house fight­ing and a less-than-stellar trailer is mak­ing me wary

    @Glo

    Exactly! Now go watch some more of those genres! Actu­ally I’m not that much of a fan of tour­na­ment for­mu­las because in the eariler rounds there’s no ten­sion because you know who’ll win

    @Vanessa

    I’ll be blunt here, but I read the PoT manga and thought it was abso­lutely dire in so many ways. But either way, at least you dropped the pre­ju­dice. The only genre I think I have pre­ju­dice against is hard­core yaoi

  18. Posted March 25, 2010 at 7:07 pm | Permalink

    If you’re inter­ested in gam­ing series, I enjoyed Shion no Ou, Akagi and I’m pretty sure my hard-on for Kaiji is well doc­u­mented at this point. :p Shion no Ou and Kaiji have great stor­ies to go along with their games, so it’s not all shogi/random games, all the time. Akagi is more focused on its game — mah­jong — but the crazi­ness and intens­ity of the show’s lead char­ac­ter helped me get past not know­ing what the hell was going on in each game.

  19. Posted March 25, 2010 at 7:16 pm | Permalink

    I think some people have addressed the idea that typ­ical anime fan != sports fan, but even from the pro­spect­ive of a sports fan such as myself sports anime still has a couple hurdles to overcome.

    A) Sports anime is the twin brother of shounen action genre. Lengthy epis­ode counts, tour­na­ment formats, crazy exag­ger­ated powers, sim­ilar char­ac­ter tem­plates across shows. Sports anime isn’t for the typ­ical anime fan you’d find in the blo­go­sphere, more for the Sounen Jump crowd.

    B) I’d rather watch live sports to sat­isfy my sports fix.

    Hav­ing said that, I’ll pick up a sports anime once in a while for a little some­thing dif­fer­ent in my anime diet, but I have no desire for heaps of it.

    Also, search “Prin­cess Nine” ;)

  20. Taka
    Posted March 25, 2010 at 8:57 pm | Permalink

    When I first star­ted watch­ing anime con­sist­ently one of the first shows I fol­lowed reli­giously was the bicycle anime Over Drive. Unfor­tu­nately like 5 other people watched it besides me. Though any­one who has seen it all the way through always rates it pretty well. Not land­mark but not bad. In short, I will always give sports anime a shot because of that one show that turned out golden for me.

    I wish Giant Killing was about Amer­ican Foot­ball instead. I’ll watch it but I just can’t ima­gine a title like that apply­ing to a non-full con­tact sport. Oh well…I guess their is still Eye­shield 21 it’s only up to 145 epis­odes that’s pixie stix com­pared to if I tried to get into One Piece’s dominating…446 EPISODES!?
    holy shit.

  21. Posted March 26, 2010 at 12:14 am | Permalink

    I’ve been think­ing about this issue myself lately — I was look­ing back on what I’d watched in 2009 and real­ised I hadnt watched any sports anime at all (or watched the1st few epis­odes and then dropped).

    I fall into ‘hate sports, dis­like sports anime’ cat­egory — I have abso­lutely no interest in sport of any kind (the excep­tions being the Olympics, the World Cup (only when Ire­land are in it :P ) and when Down are doing well in the Gaelic) apart from that I avoid it like the plague. Its kind of bled over into my aver­sion to sport related anime — which is odd given my love of shounen anime. Man­aged about 70 epis­odes of Prince of Ten­nis once upon a time but got bored.

    I’ve made an effort to get rid of this mind­set recently mainly due to Cross Game which I’m really enjoy­ing. Cur­rently watch­ing Basquash (which is mind­lessly enter­tain­ing if you don’t pay too much atten­tion to it) and have One Outs on hand — definately plan to watch Hajime no Ippo (mainly because a friend is pres­sur­ing me, and that same friend is respons­ible for mak­ing me give One Piece another chance so I respect her opin­ion) and try Major.

    Board game series don’t seem to have the same men­tal block — Shion no Ou and Hikaru no Go I really enjoyed and Kaji was bril­liant (Akagi I havent got­ten round to yet).

    This sea­son I definately plan to give Giant Killing a chance — the art appeals to me and I just gen­er­ally have a good feel­ing about it.

  22. Posted March 26, 2010 at 12:19 pm | Permalink

    Dudeeee Ill say this now, you should totally give Eye­shield 21 a shot.

    I made a recom­mend­a­tion post about it not long ago. If you dont feel like read­ing it, feel free to browse through the images XD

    http://sekijitsu.com/2010/03/09/recommendation-eyeshield-21/

  23. Posted March 26, 2010 at 4:29 pm | Permalink

    @Scamp — “What AJthefourth said is true, it’s about the char­ac­ter­isa­tion far more than the sport itself.… While there may be added enjoy­ment if you do like the sub­ject mat­ter, char­ac­ter­isa­tion is what drives anything.”

    Any medium is cap­able of good char­ac­ter­iz­a­tion (as well as comedy/drama). With that in mind, I think I’d rather select a medium I’m more likely to enjoy the pro­cess or rather than a medium I’m whole­hearted unfa­mil­iar and non­car­ing about. It’s like, if I can pick a sports anime which has inter­est­ing char­ac­ters or another anime which has good char­ac­ters PLUS other genre medi­ums I like, it’s pretty obvi­ous what I would choose given a lim­ited time.

    Choices aren’t made by “whether this is good” but by “whether this is bet­ter than the altern­at­ive”. Course, one can argue that every­one also watch a lot of crappy shows, but they’re mostly tri­als into the newly aired, and you’re just as likely to pick up a crappy sports anime.

  24. heyheyho
    Posted March 26, 2010 at 9:13 pm | Permalink

    Well, at least I grew up watch­ing some sport animes…
    Cap­tain Tsub­asa in all the ver­sions (even the really old one), Hungry Heart wild strikers, Eye­shield 21…
    I think I’ll give this one a shot.

  25. BoozerX
    Posted March 27, 2010 at 3:02 pm | Permalink

    You need to see Slam Dunk or Eye­shield 21 , if you dont like it then you dont like the genre.
    They are both great animes and more awe­some manga
    When I saw Giant Killing in the lineup a Hell Yeah!! was heard.
    Sport anime is very vis­ceral , you have the under­dogs and root like crazy for them.
    And Hiruma from ES21 is one of the greatest char­ac­ter I read or saw.

  26. Mr. Carpenter
    Posted April 6, 2010 at 1:59 am | Permalink

    I don’t know why but Im pretty much into with sports anime. I love watch­ing Cap­tain Tsub­asa, Hajime Ippo, Ini­tial D, Major with new sea­son 6 now air­ing, Slam Dunk, Prince of Ten­nis, One Outs, and just fin­ished Cross Game. Just love to watch anime

  27. Poko
    Posted July 22, 2010 at 3:13 am | Permalink

    I’m a HUGE fan of sports anime and can tell you Giant Killing and Major S6 are abso­lutely addict­ing!! Rather, I’m very much thank­ful for the lack of moe and ecchi titles… anime just hasn’t been the same since the recent explo­sion of interest in ecchi and harem animes… disgusting.

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