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> <channel><title>Comments on: Dear VN readers</title> <atom:link href="http://thecartdriver.com/dear-vn-readers-2/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://thecartdriver.com/dear-vn-readers-2/</link> <description>Scamp&#039;s anime blog</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 20:28:02 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <atom:link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com" /> <atom:link rel="hub" href="http://superfeedr.com/hubbub" /> <item><title>By: AnimeSuki 2009 Choice Awards: Picking Winners &#187; Behind The Nihon Review</title><link>http://thecartdriver.com/dear-vn-readers-2/#comment-1834</link> <dc:creator>AnimeSuki 2009 Choice Awards: Picking Winners &#187; Behind The Nihon Review</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 15:28:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://thecartdriver.com/?p=6611#comment-1834</guid> <description>[...] excellent with the exception of the slightly disappointing Umineko, which isn&#8217;t nearly the calamity VN fans want to suggest. Bakemonogatari is a reasonably safe prediction. I think it&#8217;s going to win [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[…] excellent with the exception of the slightly disappointing Umineko, which isn’t nearly the calamity VN fans want to suggest. Bakemonogatari is a reasonably safe prediction. I think it’s going to win […]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: jusuchin85</title><link>http://thecartdriver.com/dear-vn-readers-2/#comment-1736</link> <dc:creator>jusuchin85</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:27:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://thecartdriver.com/?p=6611#comment-1736</guid> <description>@Scamp: Manga or VN fans should just ignore the fact that most of the time, an anime series takes a different approach than the original plot. I always say to myself, &quot;Why watch an anime series that follows strictly to its manga predecessor when I can just read it from the original source itself?&quot; whenever an adaptation is made. Truth to be told, I do watch adaptations (FMA, Soul Eater, Chobits, Evangelion etc).Furthermore, I don&#039;t think that adaptations are not that bad. let&#039;s take FMA (2002 version) as an example. The first arc follows the manga strictly but later on, BONES decided to change the plot a little since it was already catching up to the manga. How was the result? An excellent piece of good storyline and it&#039;s worth every minute of my time.I have to confess: I do continue an adaptation by reading its manga predecessor (which advances the plot; something like Kimi ni Todoke, Fullmetal Alchemist, Soul Eater, Air Gear and Suzuka). Now that is what I refer to as &quot;fandom&quot;.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Scamp: Manga or VN fans should just ignore the fact that most of the time, an anime series takes a different approach than the original plot. I always say to myself, “Why watch an anime series that follows strictly to its manga predecessor when I can just read it from the original source itself?” whenever an adaptation is made. Truth to be told, I do watch adaptations (FMA, Soul Eater, Chobits, Evangelion etc).</p><p>Furthermore, I don’t think that adaptations are not that bad. let’s take FMA (2002 version) as an example. The first arc follows the manga strictly but later on, BONES decided to change the plot a little since it was already catching up to the manga. How was the result? An excellent piece of good storyline and it’s worth every minute of my time.</p><p>I have to confess: I do continue an adaptation by reading its manga predecessor (which advances the plot; something like Kimi ni Todoke, Fullmetal Alchemist, Soul Eater, Air Gear and Suzuka). Now that is what I refer to as “fandom”.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Scamp</title><link>http://thecartdriver.com/dear-vn-readers-2/#comment-1733</link> <dc:creator>Scamp</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:02:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://thecartdriver.com/?p=6611#comment-1733</guid> <description>@kadian1364Another difference between the two I&#039;ve noticed is that when a manga reader spoils you, it&#039;s because he&#039;s thick and thinks everyone has obviously read it already. VN readers seem to think they are giving the non-VN readers helpful information. Which is why the bolded text in the article is those final words.@ShinmaruYeah, reading your FMA:B posts has probably made me think too well of manga readers. Casting my mind back to what it was like if I read Kuroshitsuji forums. I could have stood the constant fangirling if it wasn&#039;t for the constant complaints that this latest arc was a filler, especially when it was the arc I actually enjoyed the most out of the series. Oh, and Pandora Hearts fans who give out when you call an episode entertaining filler who say its totally relevant to the plot because its in the manga. Grrr....@JanetteAnyone who thinks the Lord of the Rings books are better than the movies are total idiots. I read those books about 3-4 years before the movies came out. I loved them but they don&#039;t come anywhere near the quality of the movies.@Light Novel ReadersI must admit, I haven&#039;t heard much from them. I didn&#039;t do that much reading about for Toradora while Bakemonogatari fans seemed pretty damn happy about that adaptation. In fact, the only time I can remember a bitchy LN fan was at Kampfer, and that was probably deserved</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@kadian1364</p><p>Another difference between the two I’ve noticed is that when a manga reader spoils you, it’s because he’s thick and thinks everyone has obviously read it already. VN readers seem to think they are giving the non-VN readers helpful information. Which is why the bolded text in the article is those final words.</p><p>@Shinmaru</p><p>Yeah, reading your FMA:B posts has probably made me think too well of manga readers. Casting my mind back to what it was like if I read Kuroshitsuji forums. I could have stood the constant fangirling if it wasn’t for the constant complaints that this latest arc was a filler, especially when it was the arc I actually enjoyed the most out of the series. Oh, and Pandora Hearts fans who give out when you call an episode entertaining filler who say its totally relevant to the plot because its in the manga. Grrr.…</p><p>@Janette</p><p>Anyone who thinks the Lord of the Rings books are better than the movies are total idiots. I read those books about 3–4 years before the movies came out. I loved them but they don’t come anywhere near the quality of the movies.</p><p>@Light Novel Readers</p><p>I must admit, I haven’t heard much from them. I didn’t do that much reading about for Toradora while Bakemonogatari fans seemed pretty damn happy about that adaptation. In fact, the only time I can remember a bitchy LN fan was at Kampfer, and that was probably deserved</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Janette</title><link>http://thecartdriver.com/dear-vn-readers-2/#comment-1732</link> <dc:creator>Janette</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 21:53:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://thecartdriver.com/?p=6611#comment-1732</guid> <description>Ah. Word. I do plan to go back, and &#039;watch&#039; the VN for Umineko on Youtube, but while I don&#039;t think Umineko was the best thing ever, except for the ending, it was pretty solid.Although the whiny people I ran into were on MyAnimeList, so I kinda walked into that. But really, people shouldn&#039;t be looking for a carbon copy of the VN, just realize it&#039;s going to be different, things will probably be left out, and take interest in whether they do a good job or bad job with the adaptation, not whether they copy it.Of course, the worst in my opinion, are people who want movies to be just like the books.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah. Word. I do plan to go back, and ‘watch’ the VN for Umineko on Youtube, but while I don’t think Umineko was the best thing ever, except for the ending, it was pretty solid.</p><p>Although the whiny people I ran into were on MyAnimeList, so I kinda walked into that. But really, people shouldn’t be looking for a carbon copy of the VN, just realize it’s going to be different, things will probably be left out, and take interest in whether they do a good job or bad job with the adaptation, not whether they copy it.</p><p>Of course, the worst in my opinion, are people who want movies to be just like the books.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Shinmaru</title><link>http://thecartdriver.com/dear-vn-readers-2/#comment-1731</link> <dc:creator>Shinmaru</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 21:21:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://thecartdriver.com/?p=6611#comment-1731</guid> <description>Haha, going off NovaJinx&#039;s comment, light novel readers can be pretty bad sometimes, yeah. I remember when Toradora aired and some of them were getting pissy because they thought Toradora&#039;s pacing was too quick.Also, I have fun writing my FMA: Brotherhood posts because I enjoy being a taunting manga reader! :D</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, going off NovaJinx’s comment, light novel readers can be pretty bad sometimes, yeah. I remember when Toradora aired and some of them were getting pissy because they thought Toradora’s pacing was too quick.</p><p>Also, I have fun writing my FMA: Brotherhood posts because I enjoy being a taunting manga reader! <img
src='http://thecartdriver.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: kadian1364</title><link>http://thecartdriver.com/dear-vn-readers-2/#comment-1730</link> <dc:creator>kadian1364</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:06:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://thecartdriver.com/?p=6611#comment-1730</guid> <description>VN apologists are the worst because they&#039;re such pests about it and bring up references to the VN as often as they can. Sometimes manga fans are like that too, but because of the natures of the mediums, anime being a passive entertainment and VNs being active (I suppose), the differences in adaptions become even more obvious.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VN apologists are the worst because they’re such pests about it and bring up references to the VN as often as they can. Sometimes manga fans are like that too, but because of the natures of the mediums, anime being a passive entertainment and VNs being active (I suppose), the differences in adaptions become even more obvious.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Scamp</title><link>http://thecartdriver.com/dear-vn-readers-2/#comment-1729</link> <dc:creator>Scamp</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:37:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://thecartdriver.com/?p=6611#comment-1729</guid> <description>@Sorrow-kunAni-nouta does have a point though. This was meant to come out as a rant but reads more like an extreme whine. But if it gets me more subscribers then hurrah!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sorrow-kun</p><p>Ani-nouta does have a point though. This was meant to come out as a rant but reads more like an extreme whine. But if it gets me more subscribers then hurrah!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Sorrow-kun</title><link>http://thecartdriver.com/dear-vn-readers-2/#comment-1728</link> <dc:creator>Sorrow-kun</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:22:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://thecartdriver.com/?p=6611#comment-1728</guid> <description>@ScampTrufax, only reason I read this post was because it was on Ani-nouta.  Now I&#039;m subscribed to the feed.Also, it doesn&#039;t matter how much whining you do.  Doesn&#039;t matter one bit if you&#039;re making good points.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Scamp</p><p>Trufax, only reason I read this post was because it was on Ani-nouta.  Now I’m subscribed to the feed.</p><p>Also, it doesn’t matter how much whining you do.  Doesn’t matter one bit if you’re making good points.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Scamp</title><link>http://thecartdriver.com/dear-vn-readers-2/#comment-1727</link> <dc:creator>Scamp</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:23:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://thecartdriver.com/?p=6611#comment-1727</guid> <description>Argh, why was comment moderation turned on? Sorry anyone who typed out a well thought comment only to think it had been eaten by the site.@MikenAll I can really say is &#039;lucky you&#039;. If you can find the right places on the internet you&#039;ll get nice VN readers, same way it took me a while to find places to read about FMA:B without buthurt manga fans.@sageI&#039;m not just talking about Umineko you know@NovaJinxI know exactly what you mean when you say you like a VN but just can&#039;t get through it. I get the same problem with manga. I&#039;m trying to read Yotsuba&amp; and I absolutely love the thing but I just can&#039;t get through it without getting bored and wandering off to watch some anime. I&#039;m an anime fan through and through. Manga, VN, novels etc. bore me nowadays, even my old favourites.@Sorrow-kunYes, about half of what I&#039;ve referenced I&#039;ve found in regards to Umineko but I&#039;m not really talking about the Animesuki forums. They&#039;re pretty damn bad and I remember seeing an entire page bitching about the lack of a moefang on Beatrice but no matter where you go you&#039;ll find some VN reader bitching about the Umineko anime. In fact, a huge part of what I&#039;m talking about is Key adaptations being immune to criticism because they are a totally accurate adaptation of the source material. Now that annoys me quite a lot.@Ani-nouta (seeing as I can&#039;t comment on the blog itself)18 months and 180 posts at Bokutachi and yet it only takes 2 posts to be recognised by nouta? It was more of a backhand praise but I&#039;ll take the constructive criticism and do less whining in the future</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Argh, why was comment moderation turned on? Sorry anyone who typed out a well thought comment only to think it had been eaten by the site.</p><p>@Miken</p><p>All I can really say is ‘lucky you’. If you can find the right places on the internet you’ll get nice VN readers, same way it took me a while to find places to read about FMA:B without buthurt manga fans.</p><p>@sage</p><p>I’m not just talking about Umineko you know</p><p>@NovaJinx</p><p>I know exactly what you mean when you say you like a VN but just can’t get through it. I get the same problem with manga. I’m trying to read Yotsuba&amp; and I absolutely love the thing but I just can’t get through it without getting bored and wandering off to watch some anime. I’m an anime fan through and through. Manga, VN, novels etc. bore me nowadays, even my old favourites.</p><p>@Sorrow-kun</p><p>Yes, about half of what I’ve referenced I’ve found in regards to Umineko but I’m not really talking about the Animesuki forums. They’re pretty damn bad and I remember seeing an entire page bitching about the lack of a moefang on Beatrice but no matter where you go you’ll find some VN reader bitching about the Umineko anime. In fact, a huge part of what I’m talking about is Key adaptations being immune to criticism because they are a totally accurate adaptation of the source material. Now that annoys me quite a lot.</p><p>@Ani-nouta (seeing as I can’t comment on the blog itself)</p><p>18 months and 180 posts at Bokutachi and yet it only takes 2 posts to be recognised by nouta? It was more of a backhand praise but I’ll take the constructive criticism and do less whining in the future</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Sorrow-kun</title><link>http://thecartdriver.com/dear-vn-readers-2/#comment-1726</link> <dc:creator>Sorrow-kun</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:21:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://thecartdriver.com/?p=6611#comment-1726</guid> <description>&gt;Implying the manga readers are any better trollface.jpgLet me guess, &quot;anime based off a visual novel&quot; = Umineko and &quot;some for­ums&quot; = AnimeSuki Forums.  Geez these people made such a rave when the Umineko anime started airing that I just payed no attention to them after that.  Not that the Umineko anime turned out to be all that good, but the noise these people made, you&#039;d think someone had just taken a shit on St. Peter&#039;s Basilica.  They&#039;re almost as bad as Type Moon fags, what an miserable, annoying bunch of fucking mouth-breathers those guys are.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Implying the manga readers are any better trollface.jpg</p><p>Let me guess, “anime based off a visual novel” = Umineko and “some for­ums” = AnimeSuki Forums.  Geez these people made such a rave when the Umineko anime started airing that I just payed no attention to them after that.  Not that the Umineko anime turned out to be all that good, but the noise these people made, you’d think someone had just taken a shit on St. Peter’s Basilica.  They’re almost as bad as Type Moon fags, what an miserable, annoying bunch of fucking mouth-breathers those guys are.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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