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Critique us please

So it first star­ted with the Otaku Elim­in­a­tion game and the cri­ti­cism of anime blogs they decided to dis­trib­ute. While some people seemed to recoil at the pos­sib­il­ity of their writ­ing being cri­tiqued (usu­ally from the people whose writ­ing was in dire need of a kick up the hole fun­nily enough) most of the anib­log­sphere embraced the pro­spect of finally receiv­ing some con­struct­ive cri­ti­cism. How­ever, lets face it, the OEG isn’t exactly giv­ing won­der­ful advice on how to improve your blog, cer­tainly not while they’re in Danny Choo suck up gen­o­cide mode at the moment. So a man dan­ger­ously low on hit points decided that the best idea was to simply ask on the blog for con­struct­ive cri­ti­cism. This fol­lowed suit over at Anime² (::Edit:: and later over at Mikito­ism) so now over to Bok­uta­chi no Blog.

I invite you all to provide us with con­struct­ive criticism.

It doesn’t neces­sar­ily have to be about me either, it can be for any of the writers on the blog. Although I will say that none of us have any sort of cod­ing skills what­so­ever so the lay­out will have to stay the exact same.

Upcom­ing is a long, mean­der­ing ramble that you can ignore if you would just like to provide critique.

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I really don’t think this is the ideal way to provide con­struct­ive cri­ti­cism for the blog, or the anib­log­sphere in gen­eral. You’re instantly lim­it­ing your audi­ence to people who obvi­ously already read your blog and hence feel that your writ­ing stand­ard is up to scratch, obvi­ously oth­er­wise they wouldn’t be fol­low­ing you. This instantly lim­its the array of people provid­ing cri­tique. Then there’s the prob­lem of how dif­fi­cult it is to provide cri­ti­cism. Lets say you do have an idea of how a writer could improve. You’ve got to first over­come the huge men­tal bar­rier of ask­ing your­self what the hell gives you the right to give cri­tique. This can espe­cially ring true for non-bloggers and lurk­ers who might feel that, since this guy has been blog­ging for ages and you haven’t, he clearly knows bet­ter than you. Then there’s the dif­fi­culty of nat­ural human kind­ness. I know this is the inter­net where anonym­ity reigns true but to say some­thing truly harsh still takes quite an amount of men­tal strength. Even if you man­age to over­come all these men­tal block­ades you then have to deal with the prob­lem of try­ing to form your cri­tique into coher­ent eng­lish so the writer will under­stand what he feels you can improve on. This is much easier to do if you were just com­ment­ing on the design and lay­out of the blog but try­ing to com­ment one someones writ­ing is insanely dif­fi­cult and there’s a high chance you might just dive into vague sen­tences that mean noth­ing. I know this from per­sonal exper­i­ence with try­ing to provide cri­tique on Anime squared. I must have spent 10 minutes delib­er­at­ing over that comment.

Hence, I believe an Otaku Elim­in­a­tion Game styled blog is the ideal way to go. Lets face it, the OEG at the moment, while cer­tainly fun to watch and has opened my eyes to the extraordin­ary num­ber of Danny Choo suck ups there are, is hardly that far from a trolling site. But a troll that gets this much atten­tion gets it for a reason. It hits on a nerve. Would End­less Eight have had as much an effect if it wasn’t Haruhi who pulled it? The dvd sales are prov­ing exactly what people pre­dicted, that people would scoop up the same crap, even if every epis­ode was the same. The OEG hit on the fact that there is no form of con­struct­ive cri­ti­cism on the anib­log­sphere. People claim that the blogs are the greatest medium for uncensored opin­ion but there’s a hell of a dif­fer­ence between cen­sor­ship and someone help­ing improve your writ­ing skills.

So this OEG style anib­log cri­tiquing blog thing. Ideally, it would have between 10–20 people behind it, prefer­ably not all of them being blog­gers already, each with notice­ably dif­fer­ent tastes, to review the anib­log­sphere. Not an elim­in­a­tion game though. That’s noth­ing more than a com­pet­i­tion, which is just a step away from pat­ting the big boys on the back and telling them how mar­velous they are. That’s where the Anime  Blog Awards failed. It’s aim was to high­light great blogs that might not get enough atten­tion but I think there’s already plenty of ways these new blogs can be found. Some­thing I’ll do every few weeks is click on the most recently joined blogs on Animen­ano and take a look at each of them. Plus, isn’t that exactly what the inten­tion of a blogroll is? Telling every­one what blogs you think are worth vis­it­ing? So yeah, the OEG styled cri­tique blog. The pros of it are huge. Since these guys are in the are of provid­ing con­struct­ive cri­ti­cism, that pretty much renders all men­tal blocks obsol­ete and repeated cri­tiquing will mean they should develop a knack for doing it. Prac­tice makes per­fect. The more blogs they review, the bet­ter they get at provid­ing con­struct­ive cri­ti­cism. The gen­eral qual­ity of the anib­log­sphere increases and every­one is happy.

So why don’t you start one then instead of whinge­ing about it? First, this is not the ideal time to go start­ing a pro­ject like this. The OEG has still only begun and it’s still very much a ‘wait and see’ situ­ation going on. I’d argue that any pro­ject like this shouldn’t start until at least next year. The other thing is: I’m Scamp. I’m hardly a behemoth in the anib­log world. Bok­uta­chi no Blog appears on about 10 blogrolls. I’d love to be part of such a pro­ject but this post will hardly be the ral­ly­ing cry. But hope­fully we have enough influ­ence to at least put this idea in the back of peoples minds. If the OEG burns out, which I’d say there’s a 50/50 chance they will by the end of the year, then hope­fully some big­wig, or maybe a col­lec­tion of small­wigs, will remem­ber this post and get the pro­ject going.

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tl;dr Just provide cri­tique for now. It’s the sys­tem being cur­rently sug­ges­ted and we’re always open to ways that we could improve the blog.

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20 Comments

  1. DAndrews
    Posted November 19, 2009 at 12:10 pm | Permalink

    I have got to say, I fol­low no blog as closely as this one. There is usu­ally much value to what you say and your writ­ing style is inform­at­ive and entertaining.

  2. Posted November 19, 2009 at 12:11 pm | Permalink

    One cri­tique I would like to make — even though you warned against cri­ti­ciz­ing styl­ing — is to bet­ter express who wrote what post, maybe by mak­ing the author’s name more prom­in­ent in some way. It’s kind of hard for me to give sug­ges­tions, as I’m not sure what options you’re given here at Word­Press to modify this theme. And you’re not the only blog that has con­fused me on occa­sion (why is ghost­light­ning say­ing he’s finally pick­ing up a show he’s been blog­ging for weeks… (pro­tip: he had other authors writ­ing on his blog and I never picked up on that (and he wasn’t the one writ­ing that post))). Per­son­ally, I tend to asso­ci­ate a blog with a single per­son, which I do know is wrong in many cases. Of course, it could just be that I’m the only *genius* in the world who doesn’t check the post meta at the top to see who’s name is on the post… So you can take all of that with a grain of salt.

    On an even less help­ful note, I can only say that I rather like your writ­ing, Scamp. Of course, that might not sound like much com­ing from the guy who just dropped triple par­en­theses on you one para­graph above… I’m par­tial towards non-episodic con­tent, so more gen­eral anime writ­ing would tickle my bone. But that’s just my per­sonal bias and opinion.

  3. Posted November 19, 2009 at 12:42 pm | Permalink

    Frankly, I don’t openly ask for this…

  4. Posted November 19, 2009 at 5:20 pm | Permalink

    @Michael is Low on Hit Points

    Hmmm…I think I have an idea for that. On Epic Win anime blog they had a sys­tem where at the start of the post they include the writers avatar and their name under it so you can’t pos­sibly miss who is writ­ing the post. You’re not the only one who makes mis­takes on who the author is. I’ll see about imple­ment­ing that idea.

    As for epis­odic vs edit­or­ial, I’ve found that edit­or­ial attracts blog­gers and epis­odic attracts the more every­day fan, the lurk­ers. I always try to keep a bal­ance between the two.

  5. Posted November 19, 2009 at 5:39 pm | Permalink

    @Scamp: Edit­or­ial attracts both blog­gers and fans. Just look at my post on Lel­ouch DOA status. Some include flamers, cas­ual fans, hard­core fans, and myself, at first. Then I lost interest of the topic. FYI, I do believe Lel­ouch is dead.
    How­ever, I do agree we should keep a bal­ance between the two; edit­or­ial and epis­odic. Epis­odic is a stand­ard for most anime blogs. What we can do (as an extra) is anime news but that would be too much hassle because we need to update ourselves to anime/manga (maybe games) news more fre­quently and most of the new sources are in Japan­ese. I’m sure none of us are Japan­ese literate.

  6. Posted November 19, 2009 at 8:49 pm | Permalink

    @Brian

    Ah, the com­ments on that Lel­ouch post make me grin. There’s always an extra com­ment every month with someone yelling ‘BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CART DRIVER’. I’m pretty cer­tain that post is the cur­rent record holder for the most com­ments on a single post.

    As for anime news, I’ve always felt it’s kinda pointles report­ing on news. Any­thing really worth men­tion­ing is repor­ted on ANN and will tell you the exact same inform­a­tion as any other news site. The closest thing we have is my Upcom­ing Anime page and that’s more for me to act the idiot and blab away about upcom­ing series.

  7. Posted November 19, 2009 at 9:42 pm | Permalink

    @Michael is Low on Hit Points: Regard­ing your point on “bet­ter express who wrote what post, maybe by mak­ing the author’s name more prom­in­ent in some way”, this can be eas­ily solve by includ­ing the name of the writer in the title of the post eg. [Brian]Darker than Black Epis­ode 100. What does the rest of the team think?

  8. blindability
    Posted November 20, 2009 at 1:14 am | Permalink

    It is a little hard to see who’s writ­ten the post unless you’re look­ing for it. I’m up for any­thing that works.

  9. Humanity_Cat
    Posted November 20, 2009 at 7:29 am | Permalink

    Unfor­tu­natly I don’t read enough of the stuff that comes out of this blog to give some proper cri­tique, but one of the best things I’ve noticed about Bok­uta­chi no Blog’s writers (Okay, really Scamp, Brian, and Blind­ab­il­ity, sorry, I haven’t really read much of Loba or Kaza’s stuff) is the sense of humor they put into their posts.…for lack of a bet­ter wording.

    I think this is a good idea, but it might not be as…public(?) as the Otaku Elim­in­a­tion Game…which I’m still wary of their ‘cri­tique’ sys­tem. But as they said, they never said they would give cri­tique, and hope­fully those blog­gers who signed up for the Game know that.
    But I like this, and hope­fully it will get some more publicity.

  10. kaza
    Posted November 20, 2009 at 10:14 am | Permalink

    Hey Scamp! How’d you do that little picture/name thing in the begin­ning of the post??

  11. kaza
    Posted November 20, 2009 at 10:16 am | Permalink

    Sorry… I’m really hor­rible at put­ting and res­iz­ing pic­tures into posts and stuff like that…

  12. Posted November 20, 2009 at 7:45 pm | Permalink

    Scamp came up with the solution…he prob­ably used paint. If we can get a japan­ese lit­er­ate writer, we can prob­ably start fan­sub­bing instead LOL.

  13. Posted November 20, 2009 at 10:27 pm | Permalink

    Yeah my pho­toshop demo ran out and I haven’t bothered to get a new one yet so I cobbled that thing together in paint just to see what it looked like. Hence why the pic­ture qual­ity is pretty shit. But if you look at the avatar pic­tures in the sea­son pre­view you’ll see that the pic­tue qual­ity is much bet­ter since I used pho­toshop for those. I’ll make one for every­one if you want when I have pho­toshop again unless someone else wants to.

    @Humanity_Cat

    Trrust me when I say I will NEVER drop my sense of humour in my posts. I hate those blogs that look at anime from an aca­demic point of view. Fant­astic way to kill the fun so it is. Watch ouf for blogs that use the word ‘mus­ings’ in their post titles

  14. Posted November 21, 2009 at 1:40 am | Permalink

    Tre­mend­ous! That’s perfect.

  15. Humanity_Cat
    Posted November 21, 2009 at 7:30 am | Permalink

    Good. ;) It’s one of the things that keeps me with this blog.

  16. Posted November 21, 2009 at 9:53 am | Permalink

    I haven’t read enough of your posts to give good feed­back.
    Any­ways, the idea of an OEG styled blog that gives con­struct­ive cri­ti­cism is a good idea, but would be quite hard to achieve.
    Any­ways, OEG is fun to read and no one should take it too ser­i­ously. At the same time, I also believe that self pro­claimed crit­ics of blogs will not and should not be taken too ser­i­ously either. I think tastes, per­sonal val­ues, and writ­ing styles are way too import­ant for each blog­ger, and it’d be a shame to sug­gest changes that change the fun­da­mental basics of a blog. That then reduces the con­struct­ive cri­ti­cism to con­tent, which is again a mat­ter of per­sonal taste, insig­ni­fic­ant stuff like spelling, and blog lay­outs, which many people have an under­stand­ably lim­ited affect on. In short, that means that real con­struct­ive cri­ti­cism will either change the essence of each blog­ger or will have use­ful sug­ges­tions on rather shal­low aspects, such as lay­outs and such.
    Still, I agree this is still a very nice idea and should be attemp­ted. I have a strong feel­ing I’m hor­ribly wrong about my views on such a pro­ject, and people will be able to get real good feedback.

  17. blindability
    Posted November 21, 2009 at 11:36 am | Permalink

    Spelling…? Insig­ni­fic­ant? That makes me sad.

    Actu­ally, I think I’m more sad that proper spelling, gram­mar, and punc­tu­ation have dis­ap­peared from the writ­ing scene in credit to “per­sonal styling”.

    But there’s always room for improve­ment without step­ping on anyone’s toes in regards to lit­er­ary per­son­al­ity; I received a critique-comment once that I sum­mar­ize too much and don’t give enough opin­ion in my reviews. I appre­ci­ated that.

  18. Posted November 21, 2009 at 2:17 pm | Permalink

    @blindability: And just like that, I now see the pro­ject in a new light and have faith in it. I do hope if some­thing like that were ever star­ted, cri­tiques will be care­ful. I do think that spelling is insig­ni­fic­ant over­all though, unless it’s hor­ribly distracting.

  19. Posted November 21, 2009 at 5:42 pm | Permalink

    I have Pho­toshop. Just email me all your avatars and I’ll email back the photoshop-ed avatar to you guys. But regard­ing this avatar, do you want to include it on every forth-coming posts?

  20. Posted December 6, 2009 at 11:42 am | Permalink

    Hon­estly I think your blog’s leet as it is…the only thing i think would be cooler is head­ing over to your own domain. Since I ima­gine you have a pretty solid fan­base atm, I’m sure it wouldn’t be hard, but money’s the other thing :( Other than that, I think your site’s sweet.

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