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Change Fate/Zero to The Adventures of Rider and Waver

I’ve now watched twice as many epis­odes of Fate Slash Zero than I was cap­able of last­ing through in Fate Slash Stay Night (in other words, I just fin­ished epis­ode 4). There’s a couple of more gen­eral reas­ons why Fate Slash Zero stomps over its pre­vi­ous com­pet­i­tion. The dir­ect­ing is nowhere near as woe­ful. The anim­a­tion is con­sid­er­ably bet­ter. What humour it attempts actu­ally works. But the main reason I like Fate Slash Zero is because of Rider and Waver.

The story of Rider and Waver, when taken in solitude, is like a sub­ver­sion of the  Magical Girl­friend genre. Here we have this hope­less loser Waver, laughed out of class by his teacher and class­mates. No fam­ily of his own, try­ing to some­how prove to those around him that he too can be great. He dis­cov­ers a magical game in which people sum­mon power­ful her­oes who will be at their every beck and call. They fight with other her­oes to get this magical maguffin that will grant him any­thing he wishes. It’s real wish ful­fill­ment in here. But what hero does he get? Not the beau­ti­ful and proud war­rior Saber, as would be the typ­ical magical girl­friend type. Neither does he get the mas­ter­fully power­ful war­rior who will bow to his every whim, mak­ing him feel amaz­ingly cool. What he gets instead is a gruff manchild who makes him feel like an even big­ger loser than he already is.

There’s more to the combo than humour that makes it work. Rider is like the hard-headed father try­ing to beef up his wimpy son. Throaty guf­faws from his gut as he thumps his pupil on the back so hard that he falls over, lec­tur­ing him on the vir­tues of good food, drink and sex. But in a sense, this is exactly the hero Waver required. Waver never had a father fig­ure in his life. The old couple in the first epis­ode were simply hyp­not­ised by him to believe Waver was their grand­child. If the Holy Grail gave Waver any of the other her­oes, he would have simply indulged him­self in a power fantasy. Rider’s refusal to listen is the exact firm hand of par­ent­ing Waver needed.

I would hon­estly like the anime to be just these two, partly because they’re so great, but also because I’m really not too fussed about the rest of the anime. Take epis­ode 4 and the duel between Saber and Lan­cer. The epis­ode con­sisted of the two of them dis­cuss­ing the weapons they were using, fol­lowed by a brief (admit­tedly well anim­ated and well coreo­graphed) fight sequence. Then they back off, hav­ing internal mono­logues about the attacks they just threw at each other. Per­haps maybe a brief exchange as to what their true iden­tit­ies are. A few more words of praise or goad­ing. Shuff­ling into stances to pre­pare their next attack and then finally another brief flurry of attacks. Fate Slash Zero has essen­tially become Dragon­ball Z. It’s not the worst for­mula in the world but, as was the case in Dragon­ball Z, the extent to which they draw out the inbetween seg­ments makes them rather dull.

This is an indic­ator of a lar­ger prob­lem in Fate Slash Zero. In the duel between Saber and Lan­cer, they’re both very straight faced. Lan­cer is a teensy bit more flam­boy­ant while Saber is slightly more proud, but the dif­fer­ence is so small it means their exchanges are very sim­ilar. The two of them are just try­ing to out-cool each other. As is the case with every other char­ac­ter in the series. I still struggle to tell the dif­fer­ence between the two identical brown haired, deep voiced dullards. The other her­oes aren’t much bet­ter, with Assas­sin and Archer also being intent on look­ing as cool as pos­sible. It makes the inter­ac­tions dull because they have nobody to play off. Every­one is so straight-faced that their con­ver­sa­tions are stilted.

This is why the Rider and Waver seg­ments are a god­send. It’s the only part of the anime where humour is injec­ted, mak­ing the whole affair a lot less tedi­ous to sit through. Not only that, but they do this while mak­ing their char­ac­ter stor­ies already far more inter­est­ing than any­one elses thus far. As I haven’t seen Fate Slash Stay Night, I don’t know who wins this ver­sion of the Holy Grail war, but it’s safe to assume that Waver doesn’t win. His wish is for people to simply respect him, some­thing that is entirely within his own power. Rider points out as much, say­ing that he should wish for some­thing out­side of his own con­trol, like mak­ing him­self taller. In a way, the Holy Grail has already given him the thing for his wish to come true. He doesn’t need to win the war because he will become a per­son worthy of respect under Rider’s tutel­age. I don’t want to see a story about the Holy Grail war. I want to see the story of how Wavers magical girl­friend made him grow to become a bet­ter person.

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23 Comments

  1. mcm38
    Posted October 23, 2011 at 12:10 pm | Permalink

    You can’t be any more right about the DBZ thing. It’s the same with Naruto and Bleach. Now I just star­ted Naruto and didn’t even get to it’s second sea­son, but as far as I’ve seen and exper­i­enced with Bleach I can safely assume Naruto also draws out the seg­ments between the fights to much. The battles become dull. (Part of why I like One Piece more than Bleach and Naruto.)

    And also, I like how their con­trast as a father-son duo is so ridicu­lous and yet so bril­liant. Anime scripts and mangaka should start focus­ing more on inter­est­ing rela­tion­ships like Fate/Zero or Usagi Drop and give less atten­tion to roman­ized rela­tion­ships. But, who am I kid­ding. None of the f*cking Japan­ese teen­agers are inter­ested in that, so they won’t ever write that stuff. F*cking hor­mones and their effects on society.

    (spoiler don’t read scamp!>)This is bet­ter than the main lead from Fate/Stay Night, who is a bit of an upgraded ver­sion of Yuji-every lead and Shana rela­tion­ship. Well the only upgrade is Saber was not a loli like Shana and wasn’t flu­or­ised with flame red hair to make her ‘moe’. Thank god!

    • Mr. Anon
      Posted October 23, 2011 at 5:06 pm | Permalink

      I’m unsure what your spoiler is sup­posed to be spoil­ing. Two epis­odes of Fate/Stay Night and a bit of genre savvy­ness is plenty to see exactly how Shirou/Saber is going to play out.

    • Scamp
      Posted October 23, 2011 at 6:48 pm | Permalink

      I’ve said this before, but you don’t have to c*nsor swear words. This is the inter­net. Nobody is going to be offen­ded. Your mum isn’t read­ing my com­ment section

      • mcm38
        Posted October 23, 2011 at 8:20 pm | Permalink

        I’ve said this before, but it’s a habit of mine since I write often swear­words on sites with cen­sors.
        @mr.anon: I first wrote some­thing that would spoil it, but than changed my mind and edited the last para­graph. For­got to delete the spoiler.

  2. Posted October 23, 2011 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    Yeah, but Saber­xIris is hnnnngh.

  3. luffyluffy
    Posted October 23, 2011 at 1:29 pm | Permalink

    >Call­ing him Archer and not Gilgamesh

    I think it’s helped by the fact that Waver is moe and Rider is handsome.

    Not in the sexual way, but in the “Oh hey this guy is an actual his­tor­ical fig­ure, and he’s really cool!” kinda way.

    • Scamp
      Posted October 23, 2011 at 6:49 pm | Permalink

      imply­ing he isn’t hand­some in a sexual way

      • luffyluffy
        Posted October 23, 2011 at 7:27 pm | Permalink

        Oh he totally is, and his beard is god tier

        But in the non-sexual way he’s also really hand­some and cool!

      • mcm38
        Posted October 23, 2011 at 8:21 pm | Permalink

        Idem for cool. Eh, hand­some? Well he’s hand­some for someone his age. But oh he’s so cool. Cooorrr!

  4. Posted October 23, 2011 at 2:33 pm | Permalink

    If they lose the war, Rider dis­ap­pears and that’s kinda sad. Its one of those moments where you wished you didn’t know the outcome.

  5. Hogart
    Posted October 23, 2011 at 4:19 pm | Permalink

    You’re right, I also wish they were the focal prot­ag­on­ists of Fate/Zero. Without the rider Rider/Waver dynamic, Fate/Zero would just be a junior-high teenager’s idea of what’s cool in anime form. Noth­ing wrong with that of course, but for me an anime driven by the rule of cool needs to be a touch sil­lier and more self-aware, which is what the pair brings to the table.

  6. Kioku
    Posted October 23, 2011 at 4:37 pm | Permalink

    Gil­gamesh is an asshat. Love that character.

  7. fathomlessblue
    Posted October 23, 2011 at 4:53 pm | Permalink

    Someone should trace back Charlie Sheen’s lin­eage to see if he was pos­sibly related to Alex­an­der the Great. I swear Rider’s the ori­ginal pro­gen­itor of the tiger blood! Hell, he even looks like one! Ditch Kutcher, sum­mon Rider, and you’ll have the greatest sit­com in his­tory… literally.

    This is eas­ily my favour­ite of the sea­son by a coun­try mile (funny, con­sid­er­ing F/SN was one of the worst series I’ve watched). All the things that should bother me (long fights, dour and ser­i­ous char­ac­ters), don’t. Maybe I’m just rel­ish­ing a series with a dark, sombre tone that doesn’t come with ott camp­i­ness (out­side of the basic premise) or melo­drama. This and Steins; Gate are the only decent ones from the last few sea­sons. If they want to make most of the cast miser­able, amoral bas­tards then fine by me; it hasn’t ruined my enjoy­ment… yet, anyway.

    • mcm38
      Posted October 23, 2011 at 8:23 pm | Permalink

      I think you didn’t watch Usagi Drop yet.

      • fathomlessblue
        Posted October 23, 2011 at 9:34 pm | Permalink

        Usagi Drop wasn’t dark or moody though, maybe a little mel­an­choly in places but over­all it was fairly light­hearted. I enjoyed it for the most part.

      • mcm38
        Posted October 23, 2011 at 10:28 pm | Permalink

        So it’s also decent, just like SteinsGate and FateZero?

      • fathomlessblue
        Posted October 24, 2011 at 6:56 am | Permalink

        Yeah, but I was refer­ring to decent darker-edged series, not just anime shows in gen­eral. God, if it was that hard to impress me, I’d have given up on this years ago! Thank­fully there’s been a num­ber of excel­lent shows this year.

  8. Ty-chama
    Posted October 23, 2011 at 7:10 pm | Permalink

    So am I right in say­ing that I’d be able to watch this show with little trouble des­pite remem­ber­ing next to noth­ing about its sequel?

    • luffyluffy
      Posted October 23, 2011 at 7:28 pm | Permalink

      Ayup, you’re golden.

      I went into it only know­ing about once Saber had a dick because Mer­lin gave her one.

  9. Suzushina Yuriko
    Posted October 23, 2011 at 10:19 pm | Permalink

    I want to see the story of how Wavers magical girl­friend made him grow to become a bet­ter person.”

    Yes, this is actu­ally a coming-of-age story for Waver, and he gets a lot of char­ac­ter devel­op­ment. Look for­ward to it.

    Also, believe in Urobu­chi Gen’s storytelling. The last volume, in par­tic­u­lar, is where you can see his power­ful writ­ing shine through the most.

    • Scamp
      Posted October 24, 2011 at 10:06 am | Permalink

      IT GETS BETTERSWEAR!!!

  10. Blackholeheart
    Posted October 24, 2011 at 7:28 am | Permalink

    Magical Bro­friend, THE hot new anime genre for 2012.

  11. Posted October 24, 2011 at 10:37 am | Permalink

    Then once it makes its rounds and comes back into the hands of Urabo­chi Gen… Viri Magi Masaki Magica, perhaps?

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