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Bakuman episode 10


Finally! My work is handed in and I’m free from University for Christmas. Time to get off this brief hiatus and back to what I do best: consuming mountains of chocolate of various different types. However I also blog anime, so I better get back to doing that too.

Wasn’t that Obvious?

In this episode, Hattori made the grand statement that the boys should look to get their manga published in another publication. What baffled me was at how long it took them together to come to this revelation. The boys I guess I could forgive. They grew up with Shounen Jump Jack. Shujin with his love of Dragonball and Saiko’s uncle having his manga published in there. Tunnel vision meaning they almost didn’t realise that they may have been better suited for another publication. But why Hattori in particular didn’t suggest this earlier did confuse me. At first I thought it was because he wanted to keep these talented kids at his publication and not lose them to another publisher. But the publication he eventually suggested they try out was under Shounen Jump Jack anyway. Although now I’ve written all this out, I’ve immediately come up with a counter-argument: He only suggested they try out for the other publication after they said they wanted to get serialised. Until then, that thought simply hadn’t entered his mind. I guess I ought to cut him some slack.

Also, I hope I got my talk about manga publication companies right…

Editor’s Advice

I liked listening to the chief editor’s advice. It covered both ground Bakuman mentioned already, but also mentioned a few new concepts. Signs of a show that knows what it’s doing. The first one being hubris. Hattori originally warned the kids that having thoughts too big for their boots would work against them, but in pops the editor and tells them that so long as their manga good enough, it will get published. Not quite the same as declaring hubris vital to making good manga, but quashing the opposite thought process is on a very similar track. His other advice…I’ve gone and forgotten what it was….oh yeah, it was about Nizuma and his lack of depth in his stories. Which is some really high praise of Shujin when you think about it. A senior editor of Shounen Jump Jack is calling his stories deep and complex. I’d certainly vote for his Kaiba-esque stories instead of the next generic Spikey haired Shounen lead series.

Glorifying Manga

There was an ANNCast a while back where they mentioned a possible way to inform fans how tough it really is to be a mangaka would be a reality show about mangaka. Part of me can’t help wondering if something similar is going on here. It’s feels like a realistic enough depiction of what it’s like at a manga publication office, yet keeps that slight sense of glorification of the process. The glorification, if anything, works against the idea that it’s here to show how tough it really is for manga authors. Still, I wonder if we’ll see a softening of opinion for mangaka because of this process instead of the “they should feel privileged I’m reading their stuff” approach I’ve seen sometimes. I’d venture a guess that a lot of the negativity towards professionals in the entertainment industry is fuelled by jealousy (“why do they get paid for the crap they put out? My stuff is clearly better”), but that’s a subject for another day.

Naive idiot

Saiko’s naivity is going to bite him hard pretty soon. Why? The belief that his beautiful, pure wife-to-be would never do something as crude as do gravure shoots was almost painful to listen to. You do realise she’s going to have to raise her profile before she goes voicing characters in anime. Like do voices in ero games, for a start. And yes, by god yes, she will have to use her sex appeal at some point. That’s how the seiyuu industry works. If Bakuman pretends that side of the industry doesn’t exist, or that it can be avoided with ease, then I will be extremely disappointed.

Speaking of Sex Appeal…


Would you look at those curves! She may have a parasite on the back of her head, but you still couldn’t say no to an ass like that.
(I think this post probably fails the bloggers Bechdel Test)

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19 Comments

  1. luffyluffy
    Posted December 9, 2010 at 9:57 pm | Permalink

    Am I the only one feeling like every episode is the same thing? Geez.

    “We worked really hard, lets take it to Jack!”
    Romance
    “Sorry guys, but this doesn’t meet this. Try harder”
    “We’ll try harder and get published by _____!”

    • Someone Else
      Posted December 9, 2010 at 10:57 pm | Permalink

      No, me and my brother too, but just like endless 8, you always feel like there WILL be something new and hope that there is

    • Scamp
      Posted December 10, 2010 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

      Have you ever watched the anime ‘Beck’? I’m going to have to write about this in a later post, but the enjoyment I’m getting from both is the same. It’s about the life of some teenage boys doing what they want.

  2. Posted December 10, 2010 at 12:09 am | Permalink

    (I think this post prob­ably fails the blog­gers Bech­del Test)

    No it doesn’t because there’s nothing else to talk about with these girls. One is stupidly romantic (read: naive) and impossibly pure, while the other has little going for her other than her smoking hot body. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Ohba Tsugumi can’t write female characters!

    • Scamp
      Posted December 10, 2010 at 2:23 pm | Permalink

      I did, however, say that all female voice actors need to use their sex appeal to get ahead. Pretty bluntly sexist in a way, doncha think

      • Posted December 10, 2010 at 3:32 pm | Permalink

        Not really, since this is the way the masses work. It’s a sad truth. Sex (appeal) or in japan loli-like cuteness sells. It’s sexist if one says: Women are only good for their sex-appeal. Like here, where most of the Bakuman girls have little personality behind their pretty looks. It’s not sexist someone says that women (or men, to be fair) could get popular if they show off a bit, because it’s true.

      • Posted December 10, 2010 at 3:34 pm | Permalink

        Not really, since it’s the truth.

  3. Fury261
    Posted December 10, 2010 at 2:12 am | Permalink

    When hattori told them 2 turn in all the work they thought would never be a hit, i lost some respect for the show. I could understand if the idea at least sounded good, but the examples they used were shitty. This approach does not excite me in the slightest because i felt like they are not using talent anymore, just luck. If Nizuma can get to where he is, just by being talented, the show would be better if Saiko and Shujin can match that talent–not with a gamble.

    • Scamp
      Posted December 10, 2010 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

      To be fair, the show has made a big point that getting a successful manga is mainly a gamble anyway. Can’t really complain about that now when they’ve made the point before

  4. Taka
    Posted December 10, 2010 at 5:48 am | Permalink

    Screw the test! Let’s continue checking out the stacked middle schooler!

    • Scamp
      Posted December 10, 2010 at 2:25 pm | Permalink

      Could be worse. Could be watching Broken Blade and checking out stacked 12 year olds

  5. Posted December 10, 2010 at 7:07 am | Permalink

    parasite on the back of her head…. lol. made my day.

  6. Posted December 10, 2010 at 11:50 am | Permalink

    I hope the other characters show up soon. Then it will be cooler.
    And Scamp, soon there will be a intelligent girl that can stand up for herself….. only that for that reason, all the characters (exspecially the boys) consider her unlikeable. And the author tries his/her best to make her unlikeable. But she’s still the best Bakuman girl. *sighs*

    • Scamp
      Posted December 10, 2010 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

      A good old unlikable character? Great, I love unlikable characters!

  7. Posted December 10, 2010 at 12:32 pm | Permalink

    If I’m not mistaken Shounen Jump (jack) has different publications apart from the principal one, but I could be mistaken.
    I think we also have the idea of what popularity really means, we have big hits that appeal to a grand number of people and we also have big hist that are not that popular with everybody but that doesn’t mean they are forgotten, they want to sell their manga but there are different ways to do it.
    Also I think bakuman story has to do a lot with character growth, we’ll see all of the characters change and mature ad they the story goes along.

    • Scamp
      Posted December 10, 2010 at 2:28 pm | Permalink

      If you can still sell to a niche audience, at least you’re doing better than every sorta liking you. Which is why moe sells

  8. Posted December 10, 2010 at 3:36 pm | Permalink

    Ahhh~
    Made a double comment above there. I’m very sorry. Could you delete the second?

  9. Posted December 10, 2010 at 7:36 pm | Permalink

    I’ve seen so many mixed views on this series. I halfway don’t want to watch it, but I’m pretty sure I’ll end up doing it anyway because it’s about mangaka and such things fascinate me.

  10. mcm38
    Posted December 11, 2010 at 1:27 pm | Permalink

    I think I get a bit of the earlier mentioned *third point to becoming a mangaka. Saiko and Shujin got *luck cause unlike some other genious mangaka (who dares to give a very cruel condition to the chief editor and getting on bad terms with him) they got to talk and come on, even if a bit, good terms with the chief editor without even getting a manga serialized.
    Altough I still feel like scamp about making your luck yourself, this kind of fortunate karma is needed too.

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